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May 12, 2008

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Odin's lost eye

I have been waiting for part 2. I have heard and read this sort of language before. George Orwell described it in his book 1984. I am just old enough to remember the translated wild rantings of a certain wicked little Austrian house painter and of an over-dressed (and overstuffed) Italian blacsmith’s son. I read the meaningless accusations made against Rajk and Slansky. They were in the same sort of language. I have heard for my self the mindless chanting of hundreds of Chinese students waving their ‘little red books’ raving at a colonial government whose justice when it caught them was to give them tea to drink, a bowl rice to eat and then make them clean up the mess they had made. They then gave them tram/ferry tickets home.
I have seen and heard this before! I am a Tory, a Queen’s Man, but I am a militant democrat. The language used is dangerous to the uneducated which is something I dislike and I suspect that Hungarian people do too. They have heard it all before.
I would ask your readers to consider what would happen to Hungary if Dr Balogh’s scenario came true? Europe takes the charter of Human rights very seriously and the European Court dishes out some very stiff penalties for infringements. Would Hungary find its-self pariah within Europe? Would it be expelled from the EU? Or what?
There is a very powerful way, not much used in this country, for dealing with little scroats (pardon my basic Anglo-Saxon) like these and the language they use. It is Laughter!
So with apology to W.S.Gilbert and all who have or ever will sing the part of Nanki-Poo

The song of Fides

“If patriotic sentiment is wanted we’ve patriotic speeches cut and dried,
For where ere our parties banner may be planted all democratic systems are denied.
See the Magyar Guarde in serried ranks assembled,
The wetness of their trousers is n’t rain or dew,
And all of Europe’s politicians tremble,
Before the “mighty power”.
The power of Viktor You Know who!”

Dumneazu

Szilágyi Anna is interviewed [in Hungarian language] in today's Népszabadság: http://nol.hu/cikk/491542/

The declining tenor of comments in the last posting, although by now somewhat predictable, simply tends to amplify the validity of much of Szilágyi's arguments. The use of the term "liberal" is often thrown around as an inflamatory epithet in contemporary right wing Hungarian discourse. I tend to think that dates back to the early and mid 90s, when FIDESZ made its turn to the right and took many of its verbal cues from Newt Gingrich's crusade against the Clinton white house at that time.

FIDESZ and the SZDSZ both had occaisional connections to the Republican Party in the late 80s and early 90s - as well as to the US Democratic Party, British Labour, the Tories, and anybody else who would sponsor a internship or sabbatical abroad for them. About once a month a delagation of Amcsi Young Repubs would show up at Bibo College looking for a translator... I did my best to make them miserable.

At that same time, the Socialists - pre-Gyurcsany - seem to have been watching the German Social Democratic Party very carefully for communication style cues. The other parties - MDF, Kisgazda, MIEP and the earlier Christian Democrats - simply lacked officers with the foreign language capabilities at that time to take advantage of offers of mentoring or advice from foreign political organizations.

Looking forward to your further posts.

Dumneazu

What point, Vandorlo? Quoting entire Monty Python monologues or cut-and-pasting Cicero doesn't make your argument any more "logical." And yes, I find the intentional pugnaciousness out of place in a discussion. The affected "erudition" of your responses comes off merely as an insincere and statements such as "I am afraid that even in all your years in the wilderness you are still completely Hungarian" come off as far more offensive than you seem to realize.

Eva S. Balogh

Traveler:"OK, so now you have silenced me too with your spam filter. Do you not see the irony?"

I certainly don't see the irony, because I haven't silenced you with spam filter.

Eva S. Balogh

Isn't it interesting that all those who defend the Hungarian right took animal names. Vuk, hedgehog, toad, and others. Why?

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