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June 12, 2008

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John Hunyadi

As one of those 25,000 or so foreigners who has settled in Hungary I can provide some further incite into this issue of perception. But first I'll provide a couple of anecdotes that really encapsulate the difference in thinking between locals and expats.

A few days ago I was waiting for a tram here in Budapest when a young man started a conversation with me. He had seen that I was reading a book in English and no doubt assumed that I was not Hungarian. He asked me (first in pidgin English and then, more comfortably, in Hungarian) what I thought about transport in Budapest and seemed genuinely shocked when I told him that I think public transport is very good - better, in fact, than in London. I further explained that it is less reliable in London and far more expensive. His only reply was that compared to the average salary, public transport in Budapest is expensive. I was clearly not going to be able to change his mindset, so I admitted that well, yes, in terms of affordability of public transport Budapest is behind Prague (though I can also point out here that most things are more affordable in Prague because salaries are higher, taxes are lower, and costs of goods and services are, generally, lower). I didn't even begin to discuss the overcrowded tubes and hours-long traffic jams that are a beloved feature of life for many London residents.

The reason I knew about the relative positioning of public transport affordability in Prague and Budapest, was because several days earlier a Hungarian friend had broached the same issue. He is well-educated and has informed himself about the issues surrounding transport in Budapest. He saw the main problem as one of funding, pointing out that local government in Budapest contributes very little to the cost of running BKV. This is true, and it is also true that there are examples where national and local government both contribute substantially to the costs of running public transport in a country's capital city. But my first thought was: shouldn't the users pay for more of the costs? Or, turning it around, shouldn't BKV do more to generate revenues from its customers many of whom seem to think they should get public transport for free (here I'm referring mainly to fare dodgers). On the subject of the fourth metro line, my friend spent some time detailing exactly how the new metro line will duplicate an existing bus line and why, because of the spacing between stations, for many journeys it will be no quicker to use the new metro line than the bus. On this subject I defer to his local knowledge; I am sure he knows just how corrupt are local politicians, and how incompetent are the managers of large public works projects. We can all judge the resulting effects, though I must say that I am still looking forward to the new metro line whereas many Hungarians (especially those who don't live in Budapest) would seem to prefer that the whole project were shelved.

John Hunyadi

"Yet if one speaks with people who live in the city they are full of complaints: not enough buses, not enough streetcars, not enough metro lines. Too many cars, not enough parking places. The roads are in terrible shape, cars' axles are in jeopardy. On the other hand, if some streets are closed because they are being resurfaced there is a huge outcry."

So, after the anecdotes, my personal view. I agree entirely with what Eva has written about transport. Every person who has visited me here has mentioned how good public transport is in Budapest compared to where they live. I also think it is good, though fortunately I do not have to rely too much on buses (the weakest part of the system, often 20-year old vehicles subject to traffic and potholes in the roads). It also amazes me when Budapesters complain about traffic - compared to London or any large city in Britain, Budapest has relatively few cars and a relatively short rush hour. On the other hand, locals seems far more accepting than I of dangerous an inconsiderate driving (and parking). But we all agree on the poor state of the roads, and I can even understand the complaints about resurfacing - road surfaces in Budapest seem to deteriorate at a remarkably rapid rate. When I first came here and saw roads that had melted in the summer heat, I was told "well, its because of the extremes of weather here". Then I pointed out that other countries facing even harsher weather seem to manage to lay roads that don't melt.

John Hunyadi

"This metro line, fourteen kilometers long, I believe, will be one of the most modern in the world." They were similarly praising of Combino (longest tram in the world, super-modern, German-engineering) and what happened? Budapest overpaid for untested technology and mismanaged the parts of the project it was responsible for (remember the overhead lines collapsing?). The Hungarian government and public sector (at all levels) needs to learn that it cannot afford and is incapable of effectively using the most modern technological solutions - it should stick to cheaper, slightly-out-date, but proven technology that is easier to handle.

Sandor

A subject very close to my heart.
Every time I go to Budapest I love it more and more. Every time I go to Budapest I can hardly wait to get home to Toronto.
The city is beautiful and exciting. The people are lousy.
But as usual, let's start with the politics!
In Hungary and by extension in Budapest, there is no property tax. All municipalities are trapped in a cash flow shortage. The users of municipal services are not paying at all for them. And then they do nothing but complain about the service.
Now this is the "par excellence" Hungarian thing to do.
This brings me back to my usual disgust with Budapest. It is the people I cannot stand. Although my former social circle I grew up with are all over the society today, in influential, even trend setter position, my impression is regularly confirmed that the level of civilization and especially civility is rapidly declining. I also cannot countenance the amount and level of poverty. I have not been used to see such poverty in Budapest.
Go see the beautiful Budapest, before the Hungarians completely screw it up!
An other thing I could also write about (perhaps a book or two) is the history, personal and general, embodied by the city. This however, gives me unalloyed pleasure to revel in. Every building, every street and square has some historical significance. Or, if it isn't precisely known to me, just by looking at the old peasant house in the middle of Jozsefvaros, with the traces of the old black smith workshop or pub in the courtyard, I can imagine and see how it must have been hundred years ago.
But on the street foot-high wild grass is growing amidst the cobble stones.
The moral is that the people of Budapest have no idea what a treasure they have and do absolutely nothing to appreciate, maintain and preserve it.

John Hunyadi

On to the other issues. It is true that Budapest is slowly becoming more cosmopolitan. But 25,000 foreigners is 0.25% of the Hungarian population which is a very low figure. Even if more than half are living in Budapest that equates to less than 1% of the city's inhabitants. A far higher proportion of foreigners live in Vienna or Prague. Budapest may be an attractive city but the Hungarian economy and tax regime are both decidedly unattractive. That is why the number of Chinese living here is decreasing; they are returning home to better economic prospects.

Restaurants in Budapest have improved markedly during the past decade. But they have improved even more in British cities over the same time period. Yes, home eating habits are changing in Hungary as is the variety of food available in shops. But they remain very parochial in comparison with the UK and possibly even France or Germany. So things are changing, but at a slower pace than I would like. The reason for the change is that Hungarians are increasingly holidaying and, to a lesser extent, working abroad. But Hungarians remain reluctant to try anything new or foreign in both travel and eating...rather like the British 30 or 40 years ago!

Tom

I agree with the comments regarding the goodness of public transport in Budapest. (A brief note: in 1956 one of our protest points was that the government should stop building the metro. Now a very large portion of inner city traffic is done quickly and efficiently with the Metro. It is good that our protests were not heeded.)

In contrast, where we live in the USA, near Salt Lake City, cars are (at least for now) indispensable. There is a move towards better public transport. (More light rail is being built.) But, e.g., in 2002 when the winter olympics was held downtown I decided that parking may be difficult there. To use public transport. So, here is what I had to do. Drive from our place about 8 miles, to the terminus of the light train going downtown. That took us downtown in about 40 minutes, and then had to change for a crosstown train (both newly built for the Olympics.) Of course, one had to wait for both trains. It took altogether one hour. I could do the same by driving there in 40 minutes, AND had no problem parking. I used public transport for ONE day.

In 1977 I did take a car to Budapest. Then it was easy to park on the Nagykorut, and traffic was not too bad. (But I got two traffic tickets) There were few parking meters as far as I can recall. Now I would not rent a car to get around Budapest.

PeterBurian

Well, it's too bad that I did not visit Hungary before it changed so dramatically.

We moved to Canada in 1957 and we still eat lángos occasionally here.

I have not been back since 1957 but will be doing so in September. No doubt it will all be entirely different than my recollection.

It will be interesting. Thanks for the update on the current situation.

Eva S. Balogh

Peter Burian: "Well, it's too bad that I did not visit Hungary before it changed so dramatically."

You'll be surprised. Enjoy and perhaps you can tell us about your impressions. Bon voyage!

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