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June 22, 2008

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John Hunyadi

"The first fruit of this investment is Daimler-Benz's decision to establish a factory in Kecskemét. One of their reasons for choosing Hungary was the existence of a good infrastructure." Well, if infrastructure were the main criterium they could have chosen anywhere in the Central European automotive region that takes in eastern Czech Republic, western Slovakia, NW Hungary, parts of Austria and Poland. But I suspect that planned costs were lower in Kecskemet as Daimler only has to compete for land and workers with the barack palinka-brewing industry!

Nevertheless, your basic point was well-founded; if the M5 had not been built from Budapest to Kecskemet than it would never have been considered as a location to build a major factory. But wasn't that part of the M5 built in the mid-to-late 1990s?

Eva S. Balogh

Hunyadi János: "Well, if infrastructure were the main criterium they could have chosen anywhere in the Central European automotive region that takes in eastern Czech Republic, western Slovakia, NW Hungary, parts of Austria and Poland."

Poland and Slovakia are not too well endowed with stradas. Slovakia was not considered. Romania was (Cluj/Kolozsvár)considered but there are no modern roads at the moment.

Eva S. Balogh

Hunyadi János: "if the M5 had not been built from Budapest to Kecskemet than it would never have been considered as a location to build a major factory. But wasn't that part of the M5 built in the mid-to-late 1990s?"

Yes, it was built during the Horn government (1994-1998). What I was alluding too that during Orbán's tenure there was practically no road construction and Orbán in his chat with the young political scientists said that he would stop all construction. I think that infrastructure is important and it would be very foolish to save money on that.

John Hunyadi

Well neither is Hungary too well endowed with autostradas. In fact, by UK norms (3 or 4 lanes in each direction) I'm not sure if Hungary has any! The main problem in Hungary seems to be land ownership/planning permission - at least that is what Hungarians have proposed to me to explain why Hungary still has not completed (M7) what Croatia had (A4) several years ago.

Western Slovakia has fairly good infrastructure; good enough for PSA to build one of Europe's largest car factories in Trnava and KIA to build another one in Zilina.

I think the only reason that Daimler didn't consider Slovakia is that there is no more room for car factories there! It has the highest per capita production of cars in the world.

Eva S. Balogh

John Hunyadi: "Well neither is Hungary too well endowed with autostradas. In fact, by UK norms (3 or 4 lanes in each direction) I'm not sure if Hungary has any!"

This isn't quite fair. England already in the sixties had quite a few "motorways." Hungary had none. One must compare the speed of building four-lane highways of this government with its predecessor's dismal performance.

John Hunyadi

Well, I think you were being unfair on Poland and Slovakia. I believe they have been no worse than Hungary in building up infrastructure in the past 15 years. I haven't seen any data on road building of the current government versus the previous one; I take you word for it. But, in fact, I think there is an overemphasis (not just in Hungary but across the new Member States and promoted by the European Commission) on road-building versus investment in other forms of transport. The railway system has been criminally neglected in Hungary. To be fair, it has in the UK too.

Eva S. Balogh

John Hunyadi: "But, in fact, I think there is an overemphasis (not just in Hungary but across the new Member States and promoted by the European Commission) on road-building versus investment in other forms of transport."

One can certainly make a good case for rail transport, but as things are at the moment, without roads there can be certainly no economic development. As for Slovakia and Poland, I will certainly check, but to best of my knowledge both countries are in worse shape in this respect than Hungary. Romania was the other contender (Cluj, but the Romanians could only show plans for a super highway and it seems that this wasn't enough.

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