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November 14, 2008

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neny

on the start i was also idealistic,but now i am not.i just look at the key elements ,and it's all.the key element is that hungarian orszaghaz don't have far-right parties,but in the naigbor parliaments sistuation is not so nice.
look around yourself slovakia (smer,sns,maciar.),romania(greater romania party),serbia(srs,dss,ds,spo....)almost every party is extreme right (except ldp).
so you in hungary can live in peace and be happy,i would be.
because the most important think is that extreme right is out of institutions,that they are on margine of society.
you also have reasons to be happy because you are secular,here in serbia all fascist groups have direct support from church(spc)
,goverment also give them financial support from budget for their activities on the universities(look "obraz","dveri",1389)they all regrutate from the partizan,zvezda,rad,and other football clubs.
and state,goverment give support for that,here we have bilbord "serbia spool up".
on that way we have message you will be part of nationalist scum,or you will be out of society.
there is fear in every day life,people are beaten ,and they have no protection from policy,which is in the hand of the ruling party.
do you know that there is a law which give cetniks (version of magyar garda) a status of antifascist,and give them a pensions.only premission is that you are anticomunist.
the picture of hitler's marionet nedic is in goverment-building.
nikolaj velimirovic,who is serbian version of hlinka is aslo rehabilitate,and here we have basic schools for kids ,which have his name.
i can talk so much,what catastrofe in serbia we have here,so i just wanna say you people in hungary be happy,and stay just like that!
so i just want you to live live long live ferenc gyurcsany.he is a real big humanist.szdsz and mszp are salvation for hungary!

Tavolsagi latogato

The irony (if not contradiction) of your post, is that you begin with a subtle mockery of those "blessed with an optimistic nature" who had great hope that "globalization" would be the cure for nationalism, and yet you end by expressing your own hope: "that one day rationality will prevail."

The real legerdemain, however, is the implied connection between "rationality" and your own claim (dare I say, expressing your own "blessed" and "optimistic nature"!) that that "the best and only solution is a United Europe."

Granted, this is but a blog posting, and one can only expected limited analysis in such a forum, but it is far from self-evident that justice for Hungary (and for Slovakia, and for all other European nation-states for that matter) is ONLY found in a "Unified Europe"--whatever that might really mean.

Furthermore, how about carrying further some of your own distinctions, to wit, between hooligans and radical fringe groups on the one hand, and political parties with legitimate (and legal) representation on the other (and maybe a wee bit less conspicuously partisan selection of spokesmen...)? One can also wonder whether is it so naive (as you seem to suggest, by collapsing nationalism and the nation-state into one) to defend the nation-state, despite the forces of globalization and the idealism from Brussels? Surely patriotism is not synomymous with nationalism, and least of all is the latter logically linked with fascism.

Lastly, despite the title, there is a rather strange absence of discussion about Slovak nationalism, which is blatant enough in the House of Parliament, not least of the all in the person of the Minister of Education, which approved a controvesial "hybrid" textbook for use in Hungarian-language schools with but Slovak place names--one of but many examples.

If this place is a "Spectrum" after all, then surely we can expect a broader and greater range of presentation in presenting phenomena.

Emmanuel

I am Hungarian..and first of all I am not a nationalist...I love my culture and tongue..and I resent the fact that you implied that our mother tongue is less useful..ones native language cannot be judged as more or less useful...it is our mother tongue and we are proud of it...we have a unique language unlike any other..and also I agree with someone else that said in their comment that you have to separate nationalism from patriotism...those are 2 different things...

Eva S. Balogh

Emmanuel: "you implied that our mother tongue is less useful.."

Unfortunately, it is less useful than German. I don't think that there is any question about it. That you love your mother tongue is perfectly understandable but it doesn't make it more useful outside the country.

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