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January 29, 2009

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HaHa

It is high time we get a property tax for many reasons. But I do think the Constitutional Court is right in saying that the state can't just valuate a property and then leave owners without the possibility to challenge such a decision.
Still, Hungary doesn't have to re-invent the wheel. Real estate tax is very common in many EU countries (surely Mr. Herényi should know this) and several systems are operating there which can be copied/adjusted: valuation of basic value, a percentage of market value and a combination of both, done by a state instituation, independant and/or private institutions, estate agencies etc and any combination of these. Looks pretty straight forward to me, although it will cost money and time to prepare and introduce, and it takes some organization.

Mark

While I agree completely with Ėva on the question of what FIDESZ intends, it seems to me that the Gyurcsány government is still confused.

1. I don't understand how, in Hungary's current economic circumstances with declining private investment and consumption, and capital flight, how revenue-neutral economic stimulus is possible. If you're going to have meaningful economic stimulus in current circumstances the state has to provide it. This, as has been clear before, requires that the EU and the ECB provide some form of financing package - with the prospect of long-term debt restructuring at the end, which will enable Hungary to finance this package. I don't see therefore how this is going to slow the rate of GDP decline, let alone stop it.
2. I really doubt as to whether anything will be achieved by tax cuts. To work the money has to be spent on goods and services produced or provided by Hungarian industry/commerce. If you look at the economic impact of the fiscal stimulus provided by debt-financed spending between 2002 and 2006, it becomes clear that there must be real doubts as to whether the private sector can respond to anything other than a carefully-focussed stimulus package. I, personally, would suggest that extra revenue go into upgrading infrastructure, that can be tied to programmes to promote energy conversation, or the modernization of transport. I'd also want to link these to job creation to mitigate the impact of unemployment. I think that cuts in personal income tax at the present moment are just a waste of money.
3. Introducing a property tax may be necessary, and it is true that many other EU and North American countries have one. But, I doubt personally that it will enable the state to get their hands on money that they think people should be paying in other taxes (the real answer to this is to give the APEH greater powers, and to put more resources into enforcement). Furthermore, any examination of the politics of property taxation anywhere else suggests that the government will walk its way into the centre of a political nightmare. I'd mention California's Proposition 13, and the sorry history of local government taxation reform in the UK if anyone wants to understand how politically explosive this might be. I'd go as far as to say that if FIDESZ really want rid of Gyurcsány before 2010, then their best bet is to hope that he is stupid enough to try and introduce a property tax now.

Eva S. Balogh

Mark: "I'd go as far as to say that if FIDESZ really want rid of Gyurcsány before 2010, then their best bet is to hope that he is stupid enough to try and introduce a property tax now."

You might be right about this but if I understand it right the rate of taxation would be so low that most people wouldn't even feel it. But then, why, one could ask.

Op

I don't know who came up with the analogy, but it's pretty good: Gyurcsany is playing jenga with the country. Every move will make the structure weaker and less stable.
He wants the opposition to help him by holding their breath and not making any sudden movement. Unfortunately it will only delay the fall of the tower, so to avoid total collapse, Gyurcsany must be stopped before it's too late. It should have been done in 2006, we could have averted the IMF disaster and would be in much better position to recover. Now, minus $30 billion later it looks a lot more difficult.

Mark

Ėva: "the rate of taxation would be so low that most people wouldn't even feel it".

Of course this is a sensible way of introducing it, but the real problem is the second problem you mention in connection with the constitutional court judgement - the affordability question.

I think of my former neighbour - a single pensioner living in Budapest's V district. She has on the face of it a very valuable property, but her income is low, and, however small the tax is she will be hit.

I know the survey data for the UK (and I suspect I'd find similar things elsewhere). Property taxation is deeply unpopular because of its lack of a relationship to the ability to pay, and that it is seen as a tax on housing.

Anyway, we'll see .....


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