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March 21, 2009

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Lia

Exactly what is it about Bokros that most everyone in MSZP and FIDESZ hates so much? Everything I've read from him, and reading about his successes in helping other emerging markets climb out of the gutter, I simply don't understand why Hungarian politicians don't accept him as an alternative to the current chaos? I'm no economist, but based on what I've read, we could do worse than Bokros, no?

CSI Csongrád

Bokros offers cuts, cuts, cuts and more cuts. MSZP and FIDESZ only want to offer more money to their clientele. Basically Mission Impossible as neither party is actually interested about healthly, sensible, economically suistanable government spending but are geared more into supporting their own supporters with the tax money. Hungary suffers but the party faithfuls will have their coffers full.

Sikeres

The most hated hungarian prime minister ever,fgy finally resigned. He made Hungary poorer and weaker during his reign. We do not need leaders like him. I will open champagne today :-)))))

Eva S. Balogh

Sikeres: "The most hated hungarian prime minister ever,fgy finally resigned. He made Hungary poorer and weaker during his reign."

Well, that is a bit of an exaggeration. What about Mátyás Rákosi? Moreover, the real problems had started before he became prime minister: between 2000 and 2004. In the last two years he made valiant efforts (and succeeded) to decrease the deficit but then came the world financial and economic crisis. He was very unfortunate. No prime minister or government can be popular when there is such an economic disaster of not his and his government's doing.

Mark

" But outside of Fidesz and the Christian Democrats (who surely would not enter the fray as a separate party) no one wants to have early elections. To tell you the truth, I don't think that even Fidesz wants them. If I were Viktor Orbán, I wouldn't."

Let me just be mischevious for a moment, and take the logic of your comment a stage further. Of course rationally Orbán shouldn't want an early election - and ought to at least offer toleration to an expert government, but have you considered the possibility that early elections might suit the long-term interests of the Socialists? Yes, they'd lose them pretty badly - but probably not by as much as the opinion polls currently suggest, and especially with a new candidate for Prime Minister at their head not associated with the current government. Looking at what Hungary is going to be faced with in the next eighteen months, the winner of an early election would find itself utterly discredited as a result of the consequences of handling the financial meltdown that Hungary is likely to go through, however well it won the elections. I may be being overly cynical - but looking at all the economic projections for the next twelve months, I can't help but think that the longer they hang on, the worse their result will be, and they may as well cut their losses, and take the beating now!

StuckInTheMiddle

"He was very unfortunate. No prime minister or government can be popular when there is such an economic disaster of not his and his government's doing."

According to his own admission in Öszöd, for 18 months after he took power in 2004 he and his government did nothing to keep the budget deficit from rising to absurd levels and used every trick in the book _ and some not even in the book _ to keep the country in the dark about how bad things really were.

Sure, Gyurcsany is not to blame for the global crisis, but his irresponsible and erratic behavior during the past 5 years amplified the effects of the crisis in Hungary.

Mark

StuckInTheMiddle: "According to his own admission in Öszöd, for 18 months after he took power ..... used every trick in the book _ and some not even in the book _ to keep the country in the dark about how bad things really were."

I don't disagree with your analysis of Gyurcsány's failings, but it astonishes me that the electorate themselves seem to act as if they have no responsibility whatsoever for the situation, and Gyurcsány can therefore be blamed for eveything. During the run up to the elections, the EU, Moody's, Standard & Poor warned the Hungarian population that the budgetary situation was dangerous - and these interventions were widely reported in the Hungarian media. Anyone vaguely sentient should have realized before the elections they were being lied to by the MSZP - and even more so by FIDESZ, whose programme in those elections could best be described as Harry Potter economics. It didn't take much working out that this situation would require quite a big and painful correction. Instead 43% on one side decided to ignore the overwhelming evidence, and 42% on the other side did exactly the same thing. Voters, as well as politicians have something to learn from the Öszöd saga - beware of politicians pretending to bear gifts! All they are doing is bribing you with your own money!

Odin's lost eye

He is a cleaver little devil this Gyurcsány. With a constructive vote of no confidence he can put forward as an alternative a candidate who is so unacceptable that he Gyurcsány will win the vote hands down. In doing son he might just draw SzDs and MDF into his coalition. Equally he might pull in one of the minor party leaders as PM and dump the whole boiling mess into their laps. He and the minor parties do not want an election now as MZSP would be decimated and the minor parties eliminated. I think many people know that Orbán Victor only wants one thing ‘Total Power’ and that may be his undoing!

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