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April 18, 2009

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Kryptos

How DARE you! Eduardo was a great man. Calling him right-wing shows incredible ignorance on your part. I knew him. Eduardo was always anti-authoritarian, a true anarchist. He believed, truly believed that the people are wise enough to run a proper civilisation without having a ruling class. That doesn't quite qualify as right wing, now does it?

Furthermore you mention rumors about drug dealings - yes, they were rumors spread by the Serbians to discredit this hero. Strange, isn't it, that the same lie raises it's ugly head from that part of the Bolivian government, that has it in it's best interest to discredit Eduardo AND not to let Morales become a near-martyr.

Eduardo was an idealist, an honest man. He was prepared to go to war for reasons he honestly, truly felt were noble.

He lived as a hero and died as a hero. I agree with you, offing the bastards in the Hungarian Parliament would have been well within his capability, but the point is that he didn't. That also is a proof that he wasn't a right-wing nut as people would have us believe. Obviously it is in the interest of the supposedly left-wing government to portray him as such. He doesn't deserve it. He was a great man.

May he rest in peace.

Mike of Yorkshire

Michael Martin Dwyer "a "soldier of fortune, . . . served as a mercenary in the Balkan wars" -? Just a minute - he's 22 yrs old; are you suggesting he was toting a machine-gun at the age of 8?
If you look at what has been reported of him, including his messages on the web, he comes across as a youth obsessed with the 'romance' of mercenaries and weapons, but he hardly qualifies as an experienced guerilla fighter!
He's even too young to have had experience with the Irish paramilitaries (unless he was with the republican 'ultras' - and that's pretty unlikely). And last time I was there, Oireland was a bit thin on subtropical jungle and altiplano.
I know nothing of Magyarosi and Tóásó - they (and Flores) may well have been 'armed and dangerous'. But I strongly suspect Dwyer was a kid who let his fantasies take him over and get him in way over his head.

Mike of Yorkshire

Correction - the websites today quote Dwyer's age as 24. Even so, he would have been 10 when the Serb, Croat and Bosniak wars ended.

Mike of Yorkshire.

pat

From What I hear Michael Dwyer only graduated from college last year and only left Ireland in November 08. The first his family heard of anything involving mercenary activities was when his body his dead body with recognisable tattoo ended up in the media. This story doesn't add up at all. He Irish Police had never heard of him and he had no links to Irish subversives. He was an airsoft enthusiast who worked for a security firm.

Eva S. Balogh

Pat: "From What I hear Michael Dwyer only graduated from college last year and only left Ireland in November 08."

When I wrote the story about Dwyer very little was known about him. Either BBC or Reuters tried to connect him somehow to Rozsa-Flores. This is how Croatia came into the picture. I'm not going back and correct something I wrote two days ago.

Mike of Yorkshire

It does seem there is a link of some kind to Rozsas-Flores - maybe MMD got to know him and got sucked in? Maybe he overstated his knowledge/experience/etc?
ERF sounds an unpleasant kind of person (some far-right folk seem to think he's a hero?) and the original post may well be right to suggest AM and ET are from the same mould. My point was that as soon as MMD's age became known, the suggestion of involvement in the Balkan wars became risible.
And BTW - " . . the people are wise enough to run a proper civilisation without having a ruling class. That doesn't quite qualify as right wing . . " Well, yes, it does. Right-wing libertarianism is quite well known thank you. Look at the US "survivalists" - they are just taking 'small government' to its wacky ultimate. And we've already seen where that led . . .

Réka

Dear Eva S. Balogh,

if anybody writes incorrect information, especially if this is offensive for a dead person, I think the least one can do is to make an effort and correct the mistake. Let BBC and Reuters correct themselves and you correct your mistakes.

And I just can't believe the bullshit about Rózsa-Flores and the speech of Gyurcsány that you present here as the big discovery. :-DD

If you really meant it, I THINK YOU ARE OBSESSED at least as much as these poor bastards who ended up shot in Santa Cruz!!

Respect for the dead!

Eva S. Balogh

Réka: "if anybody writes incorrect information, especially if this is offensive for a dead person, I think the least one can do is to make an effort and correct the mistake. Let BBC and Reuters correct themselves and you correct your mistakes.

I can't possibly understand what is "offensive to a dead person" in this instance. Moreover, what I wrote was the following: "According to accounts, he served as a mercenary in the Balkan wars."

Indeed, according to accounts appearing on that day that was the case. To change this sentence today would be falsification of history.

Eva S. Balogh

Mike: "It does seem there is a link of some kind to Rozsas-Flores - maybe MMD got to know him and got sucked in? Maybe he overstated his knowledge/experience/etc?"

The more I read in Hungarian papers about him the more I think that half of his stories were not quite true. Or at least they were greatly exaggerated. Apparently quite a promising if not brilliant teenager with fantastic linquistic, literary and musical ability but somewhere something went very wrong.

Bolivia No Es Cuba

Evo Morales is a narco-terrorist and he gave a order to kill Rozsas because he needed an argue to ask Mr. Obama support his gov. He needs to show to the world as a "victim"

am

Bolivia No Es Cuba : AGreed 100%

Mike of Yorkshire

What utter tosh from "Bolivia No Es Cuba".

I have been in Bolivia. It is MOST DEFINITELY not Cuba, nor any other kind of so-called communist state. It is bloody poor, and the indigineous people (Quechua, Aymara, etc) are by far the poorest. They need a Government which will give them support rather than help the rich East (and foreign interests) to nick even more money. What's more he most definitely has clear popular support.

Narco-terrorist? Coca is a way of life, and always has been. Even the bloody US Embassy serves coca maté for the altitude (have you walked the streets in La Paz, El Alto, Potosi in the mornings?) I was served dishes with coca leaves as a vegetable in ordinary cafés & restaurants - no buzz, BTW!

I also saw Bolivian police (not the FDA) carrying out anti-cocaine searches; they are trying to control hard drug circulation, almost all of which is made in other countries, not Bolivia.

It's people like you, BNEC, peddling rubbish like this, who give spurious legitimacy to the Pinochets of this world.

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Southamerican

Michael Martin Dwyer killed in Bolivia had been working for Shell like a securtity guard. He worked to a security company called IRMS. He went to Bolivia after working for Shell in Mayo, but it is not clear whether he was still under contract with IRMS.

At the end of 2007, the majority of security guards employed by Shell at the site of the proposed refinery and production pipeline in Mayo on the west coast of Ireland were replaced by operatives from a company called IRMS. These new security guards were mostly ex-military types, who were much more aggressive in dealing with the many protests against the controversial project.

One local man reported that he had spoken to a security guard from IRMS who had served in the South African army, and was using his time in Ireland as a break between trips to work as a private contractor in Iraq. Many of the security men were former members of the British and Irish armies, but some were obviously young men from Ireland who had backgrounds in the security industry, guarding places like construction sites.

Controversy flared when the security guards based at Glengad on the coast insisted on filming people using the beach, including small children.

The attitude of the security to the local people, protesters, and media was extremely poor, with guards refusing to wear identity tags and ordering people around like soldiers. Many people said they felt that the security were far too aggressive and behaved "like and occupying army".

It now transpires that Michael Dwyer from Tipperary was among the Irish men involved in the security operation.

J1 to indymedia

juventino

rozsa was shot, because he wants to kill people, that must be very clear. Media in Bolivia have croatians CEOs so, whatever they will inform unfortunately its suspicius.

Geo

Finally a realistic view of Rózsa-Flores.

He was a cold blooded right-wing murderer, he murdered two journalists in Croatia and he recruited Hungarian neo-nazis to murder native Indians in Bolivia.

They served the oligarchs in Bolivia, he could have been set up, maybe a "patsy", but he clearly misled the two young Hungarians from Transylvania.

Hungarians should protest their homegrown neo-nazi groups like the Székely Légió, which recruited these guys... Thanks for the realistic view!!!

Kirsten Taranto

I have just come back from a month in Bolivia where my son lives. I completely agree with Michael of Yorkshire. Eduardo Rozsa was nothing but a thug, who doubtless had been paid by right right wingers in the Santa Cruz area who want to secede from the rest of Bolivia so they can keep their thousands of acres of haciendas and keep the rest of the country in the dark ages. K or Richmond, Va.

Eva S. Balogh

Kirsten: "I have just come back from a month in Bolivia where my son lives. I completely agree with Michael of Yorkshire. Eduardo Rozsa was nothing but a thug"

Don't think that I think differently.

Sophie

This Eva Balogh person is not capable even of laying out a rational statement on her own blog. She spits about with directionless fury like a distempered llama. And she lies like there is no tomorrow.

Katalin

Sophie dear, they had enough of you on politics.hu, and you're not needed here either. Byebye.

Erik the Reader

You don't have the slightest clue or correct idea about Hungary , Hungarian politics or merely about Hungarians. The images are out of context!
They are from a paintball session.
If I take part in a paintball session am I a terrorist? Rózsa Flores and Magyarosi were executed. This was proofed by official police autopsy of Magyarosi in Hungary,it was in the breaking news. The truth is that they were executed, there was no gunfight, all the bullets were inside the rooms not outside. You even failed to qoute the Hungarian minister of Foreign Office who said that they were the victims of a frameup. Untill now the bolivians could not bring any proof to their claims. Even the operation did not respected Bolivian law, they did not allowed local police to be present.

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g camacho

fascinating comments. i cannot opinion on the topic but the comment from Kirsten Taranto i find it wrong.
"...Santa Cruz area who want to secede from the rest of Bolivia so they can keep their thousands of acres of haciendas and keep the rest of the country in the dark ages."
obviously kt has no clue about bolivia and less about its history, cultures and politics.

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