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August 27, 2009

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Öcsi

ESB - "They especially objected to the almost total neglect of Jews and Gypsies in the chronology section of the atlas."

If the anecdote below is any indication of how Hungarians see the world, it should be no surprise that Jews and Roma are excluded from historical atlases.

"Globetrotting reporter John Gunther repeated an anecdote about the way Hungarians are intensely patriotic and passionate about their heritage: An 8-year-old girl entering geography class is given a new globe by her father. The girl bursts into tears, wailing “Papa, I want a globe with only Hungary on it!”

Mihai

Is "oláh" (vlach) i.e. Romanian considered pejorative in Hungarian? In what way?

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Friend

It made me curious and I checked the most recent geographic atlas for secondary school for a map on the ethical diversity of Hungary.

The map that comes most close to this is labelled "Nationalities of the Carpathian basin". There are 13 ethnical groups represented on the map, lacking both Jewish and Gypsy. The full listing is Hungarian, German, Czech, Slovak, Ukrainian, Poles, Romanian, Slovenian, Croat, Serb, Bosnian, Bulgarian & Russian. It is actually my suspicion that the map is derived from a language map of the Carpathian basin, originally published by the Geographical Research Institute of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences.

ovidiu

It wasn't pejorative. But it became pejorative during the 20th century.

Olah/Valch is a Germanic word which meant "foreigner" or "roman" .
For instance "Wales, Welsh" which used by the invading anglo-saxon tribes to name the local britano-romans of England.

In the East-Europe the word was borrowed from the Germanic-tribes by the Slavs (Polish, Bulgars, etc) and from the Slavs by the Magyar to refer to romanians and italians ("romans"-by their latin-derived language)

For instance Italian and Italia are “Olasz” and “Olaszország”, respectively “Wloski” and “Włochy” in Polish.

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