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September 25, 2009

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NWO

It is proof, once again, that Governments should not be in the broadcasting business. Theoretically, a public broadcaster like PBS in the U.S. with independent funding abd an independent board should be able to thrive, but the circumstances are not right for that in this country. It is yet another failure of successive governments that MTV and its sister channels still exist in their current form.

Mark

"As a headline in Népszabadság said today: "Nap-kelte is going, Fidesz is coming?""

In some ways both this story and your previous story refering to the opposition of the directors of the hospitals to budget cuts are part of the same story. The authority of the government on a day-to-day level is crumbling. My sense of the situation is that some people are jockeying for position for a change of government; among those not prepared to sacrifice their principles there is a lot of fear of what next year will bring.

Pécsi Vera

Kedves Éva, szeretnék küldeni neked egy dokumentumot, de nem tudom a címed.

Mark

Though I won't miss Verebes's rambling interviews on Sunday morning, I will miss Nap-kelte. A programme which subjects politicians to agressive interviews without fear or favour, that is broadcast in the morning to set the political news agenda for the day is an important plank of both public service broadcasting and a democratic society. At its best it resembled a televisual version of BBC Radio 4's "Today" programme which has performed this function since 1957. It has had problems since 2006, largely because the right has adopted a "shoot the messenger" approach to interviewers, rather than respond properly to the questions that were put to them.

Mark

"Juszt is also considered to be a liberal."

To understand this you need to know more than this. Juszt has - and I'm understating the facts considerably - something of a history as a thorn in the side of FIDESZ. This is a sign of what is to come.

Eva S. Balogh

Mark: "Juszt is also considered to be a liberal." To understand this you need to know more than this. Juszt has - and I'm understating the facts considerably - something of a history as a thorn in the side of FIDESZ. This is a sign of what is to come."

I know that but it is almost impossible to squeeze everything into a relatively short blog. The readers would get lost in details about people they have never heard of. Although it is true that there are more and more readers from Hungary.

Otherwise, I share your worries but I'm a bit more optimistic about next year. At the latest polls 54% of those asked were unsure about their voting at the elections.

I have a favorite idea about how Fidesz could be stopped, but I don't know whether the anti-Fidesz forces have enough brains and resolve to come up with the solution.

whoever

In some ways this is the first of the four horsemen to come riding into town, particularly as far as the government are concerned. It has massive symbolic importance.

Fears about a loss of objectivity in the media must be tempered by the fact that Napkelte was usually dismal TV - just as the "Today Programme" would be dismal TV. There were many perfect faces for radio amongst the interviewers and interviewees. It was monotonous, narrow and often overly reverential, apart from the one or two occasions cited above.

It may be the case that the "incoming" government has enough clout by spring 2010 then to push the media into slavish obedience. Combined with the genuine grievances against the governing coalition this could push Fidesz over the 2/3 barrier. If I had to place a bet, I'd put money on it - though I doubt I'd find anyone to bet against.

Thrasymachus

This is indeed a shame. Despite an unsurprisingly vexatious relationship with Jobbik, Nap-kelte was the only national political programme that fulfilled the electoral commission strictures on giving all parties airtime.

Would that HírTV had also taken these requirements seriously. Fat chance. The fourth estate is in a shocking condition in Hungary and this move can only make things worse.

whoever

Thrasymachus, that is all very well. But this format, with these presenters, had run their course. I'm no TV exec, but I know that Worthiness is not enough on its own without flair or imagination.

Start with the Reithian approach: to educate, entertain and inform. Arguably Napkelte and its approach, so focused on personalities and the political elite, did neither of these. It didn't incoporate social reporting or economic insights, as some of the reporters on the commercial channels do, on those rare occasions when they are allowed to cover stories not involving porn actress. For example Naplo on TV2 has always had a social affairs dimension buried in there somewhere.

Napkelte usually failed to penetrate the news headlines to offer further insights. It was just politics from a failed system, featuring the usual egos, usually removed from any social context. Er... a little bit like this blog sometimes :-)

Thrasymachus

@whoever
"Napkelte usually failed to penetrate the news headlines to offer further insights."
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Your argument is clearly one of depth, mine is one of balance.

But look at Morning political agenda setting programming world-wide and you won't find much in the way of depth either. What you have, if you're lucky, is politicians (of all colors) being put squarely on the spot.

I admire your romantic attachment to the "Reithian" ideal: I share it. But if you can no longer expect it from the BBC, within which it died a death long ago, what chance do you have expecting it from MTV?

So in an ideal world I too would like the depth you crave. But failing that it would be a good idea (in fact it should be a charter requirement), for, particularly the state broadcaster: to have balance. Or as near to balance as can realisitcally be achieved.

To paraphrase P.J. O'Rourke, "politics is the practise of achieving prestige in the absence of merit." And even those politicians whom I agree with, I still feel oblidged to maintain a healthy distaste for...

They should never be allowed to forget that being giving a regular verbal pasting is what you sign up for if you decide to be an elected politician in a democracy.

whoever

I agree with the main point you're making here. Politicians do need to be pinned down on the issues; but in order to understand different aspects of the issue, there should be, as John Birt said, a "mission to explain." Otherwise these interviews are adrift. There have been few times when close analysis of politicians in Hungary has really changed the public perspective. After all, in the run up to 2002, Napkelte was marooned on ATV - effectively preaching to the (un)converted.

In regards to Reithian standards; I actually think the partial adjustment away from these in the 1960s, associated with Hugh Greene, was a necessary and desirable thing, allowing what has been called the Golden Age of TV to emerge. So I have a looser interpretation of these; and to a certain extent they remain in the BBC's output in a very diluted form. I think the BBC can still produce excellent programming - often incomparable.

Regarding the "Today" programme - it is now co-presented by a respected economist. It carries reports from a network of correspondents around the UK and the world. It has in-house specialists in science, the environment, social affairs, defence, police, etc. Grilling politicians is only a part of the format.

Comparing lazy, repetitive Napkelte to Today would be quite a stretch.

Pistefka

I always wondered why they had to broadcast this show simultaneously on M1 and M2. It also always seemed rather monotonous - not much variety visually or in format or content - the kind of political debate which appeals to only a minority of viewers, especially at that time of the morning. It also seemd firmly rooted in a studio in Budapest - where 80% of the population of Hungary DON'T live.

Recently they showed a retrospective of 20 years of the show, and the look of the programme actually sems to have got worse in recent years. The politicians used to sit on a couch, chat show style. This must have been seen as too cosy in recent years though, and since I have been watching it they stand at lecterns - it looks almost like some kind of quiz show, and the decor is even more retro than in the past if that is possible.
Of course this is all rather superficial - but then so is television. It isn't supposed to be radio with cameras.
Lets hope they can come up with a more varied and entertaining replacement.

Frank

I don't think that the real issue is whether the program was "varied or entertaining". The issue is more the need for a relatively balanced, unbiased, independent, government-funded media channel. How does PBS do it? What "circumstances are right" in the U.S., which are not right in Hungary? Is it the rule of law? ...

Here's my proposal: the media should be treated as a branch of government. (Thomas Jefferson is supposed to have said that he would prefer controlling the media over being the president.) Similarly to the Justices, members of the public TV would be appointed for life - or for a long enough time to avoid having to court voters or party members - by governments.

Pistefka

The BBC manage to be fairly neutral (and there is always hell to pay if they aren't.) However, at the same time they make plenty of programmes which manage to be both entertaining and informative. If a programme is dull it doesn't make necessarily it any more worthy.
I wasn't suggesting that it is enough for a news or current affairs programme just to look good or hold the viewer's attention. Of course it should also be "a relatively balanced, unbiased, independent" - and active in its reporting rather than merely reacting to press releases. But there are plenty of other channels to turn to, so its imperative that the viewers don't get bored, or are turned off by tacky "public" production values.
Public broadcasting should set high standards in all respects, and present a professional face of the state that the people can respect and admire - like a successful public building.

whoever

Exactly. It's a sign of the stagnation and lack of ambition in Hungarian politics: the debate around Napkelte/Ma Reggel consists of which politicians will be given the opportunity to answer questions on a monotonous breakfast "show" - rather than "How can we add value to this programme, from a public service perspective?" Any breakfast programme can add context and relevance to any, obviously unbiased, interviews, through outside reports and using a network of reporters. There's so many issues to cover, and there's no excuse for using the same faces, over and over again.

But any show which is Peter Kiss every Monday, and Peter Kiss every Thursday, is probably doing something wrong: as is a show which is Mihaly Varga on Wednesdays and Fridays. In fact these programmes probably do more to alienate people from politics, than any marginal contribution to education or engagement.

It's sometimes the little things that matter. TV should be more than an ego-fest for star interviewers and interviewees: and so should politics.

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They need our help, problems in Hungary are
enormous. Orbán has a chance now to do some work. Corruption is rampant, the forint is sinking. He has got his hands full. He deserves some support rather than
a sulking and peevish opposition.
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