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May 29, 2010

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Alias3T

200,000?
10,000 tops. Few under 60.

Eva S. Balogh

Alias3T: "200,000? 10,000 tops. Few under 60."

I read 200,000, but the article did say that most people there were middle-aged. Where are you getting the 10,000? I'm curious.

Alias3T

I was there!

Eva S. Balogh

Alias3T: "I was there!"

Well, that's the best source (big smiley)!

Alias3T

It was fairly typical of the crowds Fidesz has been getting for the past year or so. Mostly older people, with young supporters accounting for no more than a tenth of the attendees.

Fairly subdued - only a few hundred were chanting "Viktor! Viktor!".

The aim I think was to recreate the "glory days" of their inter-round rally of 2002 or the 2006 alarm clock rally after the Oszod speech. It didn't work - apart from the number of moustaches, this crowd didn't look much different from an MSZP rally.

The enthusiasm has gone. This is a party that won by default because its rivals collapsed.

For buzz and attractive young people, you have to go to a Jobbik rally nowadays.

Oh, and it was Semjen who really got the crowd going. Orban's speech was lacklustre. Perhaps he had a sore throat.

Passing Stranger

Orban has forgotten the first rule of organising a political event: make sure the venue is too small for the expected audience. As it was, the Fidesz supporters barely filled a fifth of vast Kossuth square. They would have been better of using tiny Madach Imre Square.

I was there too, and there were no way near 200,000 people. Perhaps 20,000. My frame of reference is the Sziget festival main stage, which can draw 40,000 people on a good night. There were far, far fewer people here. To give you an idea: only the south end of the square directly in front of parliament had a crowd on it, but the people were not densely packed. The grass in front of the Kossuth statue was mostly empty.

There were only a couple of people on the road, which had been unnecessarily closed for traffic, though small groups used the agriculture ministry to shelter from the sun.

The organisers had over optimistically placed a video screen and loud speakers halfway up alkotmany utca, the massive thoroughfare that leads onto the square. They had clearly counted on the square being packed, and had placed the screens to please the crowds expected to spill over from the square. As it was, alkotmany street was completely empty.

It is clear that the young vote Jobbik, as the crowd consisted of grouchy pensioners, either leaning on flag poles for support or using their flags to shade themselves from the sun, squabbling among themselves for a spot to sit in the shade. Considering they could celebrate a 2/3 victory they were a very miserable bunch.

Though the message was one of "national unity", it was clear that Fidesz equates the nation with its own followers, and promises to deal with enemies received cheers.

Which poses the question: who paid for this? It was obviously a Fidesz bash.
I bet though, that the Hungarian tax payer has funded this gathering. It is odd that this question is not popping up in the Hungarian media at all.

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