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May 19, 2010

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Joe Simon

I really donot think that FIDESZ threatens the peaceful coexistence of Hungarians and Slovaks. This relationship has been pretty rocky in the past. Now Hungary is trying to stand up for the minority there,
giving them some recognition by dual citizenship. First of all, in principle
it cannot be challenged in the EU context.
Dual citizenship exists everywhere. It is an important psychological boost to Hungarians living beyond our borders.
Joe Simon, Diósgyőr

NWO

One thing is for sure. Regardless of what Orban thinks, the Hungarian people consider the last 20 years a failure (72% saying in a recent PEW survey (link below) that they are worse off now than under communism and 42% saying they do not approve of the change to a free market economy (46% approved) and even an astonishing 35% disapproving of a multi-party system) [http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1598/czech-republic-pre-election-still-support-democracy-free-market-despite-economic-pessimism].
Sadly, it seems Orban does understand what Hungarians are thinking and believing. Let's face it(all of us who fervently believe in democracy and a free market economic system and liberty), we are losing the argument. And just to be clear, Hungary is different. On all of these matrix, Hungarians' views differ substantially from the Czechs, Poles and Slovaks. This, whatever one wants to say, is a sure sign of the failure of the political class, and particularly the MSZP which squandered its opportunity over the last eight years to create a different society. Sadly, Orban has and will exploit this. Sadly, his views mirror those of the population at large. So yes, maybe this is a revolution unfolding now and yes maybe Hungarians are really as stupid as the most cynical people believe.

John T

Hungarians have always been different. Its the rest of the world that has it wrong :-)

Öcsi

NWO wrote: "One thing is for sure. Regardless of what Orban thinks, the Hungarian people consider the last 20 years a failure..."

I wouldn't give these polls too much credence. After all, being pessimistic about EVERYTHING is the sine qua non of being Hungarian. Of course they think they were better off under communism. And in five years the polls will show that Hungarians think they were better off under Gyurcsány than they are under Orbán.

Leo

After flooding the country with incendiary politics Mr. Orbán now talks of national cooperation. That seems curious, but his speech makes it clear that those who do not support him are no longer part of the nation. His words must be very intimidating to many Hungarians, and they are probably meant to be so. He seems to offer just one more opportunity to join his victorious revolution, or else ...

These misled or criminal opponents may still live in the same country, but logic dictates that this is an anomaly that somehow must be corrected in the near future (maybe the Slovak government could help out with an offer of citizenship?).

On another level we may understand his concept of national cooperation as a plea (or a command?) to keep the unity his private nation showed on election day. This, of course, is a pipe dream. In the coming months Fidesz´ secret program must at last be revealed and the party apparatus will certainly start fighting over the spoils.

Many Hungarians will be unpleasantly surprised and Jobbik (if not emigrated yet) will have a field day using Mr.Orbán´s proven tactics, now against the ´revolutionary´ government itself.

A third thing that strikes is that in Mr. Orbán´s words the great deed is already done. The change of government is declared historical – while all that changed is a new man in the saddle. But then, maybe that is what this is all about - old fashioned personal power.

Mr. Orbán reminds one of Stalin, also a man whose primary occupation was power politics. A politician with otherwise fuzzy ideas, and programs that generally worked out disastrously. Yes, I can even imagine Stalin as leader of a youth party!

However, in the end this speech most of all indicates that Mr.Orbán lives in a private world that is closed to rational discourse.

Kathleen Szikra

Very interesting comments.

The issue is, that the "message" gets completely lost in the way this party (FIDESZ) communicates. (I mean who chooses an Orange as a symbol for a Hungarian national-sided party? - as did FIDESZ. And who wonders, when the other national sided parties come up with apples in red-white-green grown in Hungary?)

Or let me ask the following question: can we believe in someone's true intension, who cannot deliver a message in a proper way? Yes we -theoretically and generously- could, if the person would not be a trained politician, a former leader etc.

I think, there is no excuse left for this...

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