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May 26, 2010

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An

So sad seeing Hungary going bad to the 30s. It's 2010, people!

Rózsa

I don't know what is more depressing : the inanity of the law or the fact that only 3 mszp mp voted against it.

Richard

That Orban ignored Slovak government is bad but understandable in its strange logic, that he ignored to meet Bala Bugar who is for long time most popular Hungarian politician in Slovakia (not only among Hungarian minority) is clear signal how FIDESZ like opposite opinions.

Problem is also that so far it is represented only as Hungarian – Slovak issue. The reasons are that Romania must shut up because they do the same with citizenship to Moldavians and Serbia is silent because last thing they need is upset Hungary around the table in Brussels when it comes to negotiations about Serbian entrance to the EU.

Looking forward for nice times in Central Europe.

PassingStranger

The OSCE is not the EU. I don't see the EU responding, to be honest. Citizenship law is the prerogrative of the member states. The EU arguably could have responded to the Slovak language law as well, but there is no such thing as collective rights for minorities under international or EU law. The Slovak response is quite clever, as it nullifies the Hungarian law. It will come to haunt Orban, as we will soon see how many Slovak Hungarians will be willing to become second class citizens in their own country.

NWO

There are a number of legitimate reasons to oppose this law (though in the current form where voting rights are not conferred to those living abroad it is far less dangerous than it could have been). I also am not sure about the new citizens entitlement to social benefits. This is obviously a big issue.
But having said this, one reason not to oppose the law is to mollify the current Slovak Government. The language law they passed last year is a much more offensive piece of legislation. Dual citizenship is quite common across Europe. It is only that the Slovak Government is even more xenophobic and nationalist than FIDESZ that is a big problem. FIDESZ, if they had been smart, would have waited until after the Slovak elections and would have conferred with the Hungarian parties in Slovakia, but they are not smart. It is just that Fico and Slota are even worse than Orban and his ilk.

GW

It's really surprising that no conservatives opposed this on the basis of the possibility of what may be called social service shopping, a variant of the so-called Greyhound therapy practiced in the United States, in which costly service recipients are simply shipped to other states. Citizens of neighboring countries might use Hungarian citizenship to claim Hungarian social services when these are found to be more greater than local services; indeed, neighboring countries might do well by encouraging their citizens to claim Hungarian citizenship and then benefits. The potential costs to Hungary are enormous.

Alias3T

The fact that they didn't wait until after the Slovak elections to pass the law suggests that Fidesz thinks it has something to gain from a strong performance by Slota. In the short term that's true, of course: the faithful are gathering on Kossuth ter yet again on Saturday, and now that they're in power they won't have anyone to fulminate and shout about. Slota fills that slot beautifully. But in the longer term? I think it could get old very quickly.

The Kossuth ter gathering on Saturday is weird in itself. "Back to Kossuth ter," the slogan reads. It's suggestive of a certain lack of direction within the newly triumphant governing party, almost as if they're trying to recreate the glory days of being in opposition in order to hide from the terrifying burden of government.

PassingStranger is right about the Slovak response, which makes it more or less certain that the number of applicants will be numbered in the dozens. It's curiously similar to the response of the Moldovan communists last year when Romania announced plans to loosen up citizenship requirements. They threatened to ban dual citizenship.

Paul

@Alias3T
I don't think the Communists in Moldova would have banned dual citizenship as a lot of them (and their supporters) have Russian citizenship. Actually Moldova allowed dual citizenship back in 2002 with the support of the Communists' Party.

@Richard
has a point about the lack of reaction from Romania regarding the Hungarian citizenship law. Some Romanians feel it would be hypocritical to have a strong reaction given Romania's policies in this area. That is part of the story.

There is also more maturity and less hotheadedness regarding the relations with Hungary.

Also the Hungarian party here is part of the governing coalition and the Democrat Liberal Party (the main party in power) depends on their support these days as drastic cuts in public spending are made.

So these days the no 1 problem in Romania is the economy and the government's decision to cut public sector salaries by 25% and pensions by 15%. This takes over almost the whole public debate. So most people seem to care more about their salaries and the big general strike that was announced and less about some Transylvanian Hungarians that might get Hungarian citizenship.

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