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June 21, 2010

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pgyzs

"I'm almost certain the verdict would go against the Hungarian government."

I'm not so sure, cf.

http://drotontul.blog.hu/2010/06/22/indoklas_nelkuli_kirugas_es_az_eu

I don't know if it's right, but it's a big surprising why it is so hard to decide if EU prohibits it or not...

Odin's Lost eye

The general principle of European law is that each case has to be heard and tested on its merits. Historical precedents also form a large part of the process. The problem for Hungary is that Article 30 (the protection of employment rights) mentions BOTH EU and Hungarian labour laws, but European law takes precedence. It is interesting that the writers of the article you mention were unable to find a Hungarian version of the Charter. It says much about the Hungarian establishment’s wish to keep everyone in the dark about their rights and the mechanisms by which they can be invoked. The use of these mechanisms can have amazing effects and cause governments to abruptly change course (as well as pay out huge sums in fines, damages and compensation.

Eva S. Balogh

pgyzs: ""I'm almost certain the verdict would go against the Hungarian government." I'm not so sure, cf. http://drotontul.blog.hu/2010/06/22/indoklas_nelkuli_kirugas_es_az_eu I don't know if it's right, but it's a big surprising why it is so hard to decide if EU prohibits it or not..."

One legal expert says this, the other says that. Although Sólyom is not one of my favorites, I assume that he knows the laws of the European Union a bit better than, for example, Róbert Répássy. So, for the time being I am siding with Sólyom.

pgyzs

Eva: I'd agree with you, if Sólyom is good in anything it is legal issues especially if you compare him to Répássy. On the other hand

"One legal expert says this, the other says that"

Is confusing to me and I think the EU is making a big mistake by not declaring where it stands, since then there is plenty of space for experts and "experts" to raise confusion. (and I'm sure this happens in other countries as well). After all what matters is not who you side with but what does the European court decide in the end. I'm fascinated.

Odin's Lost eye

I have been thinking further in the matter of E.U. employment regulations. Under E.U. regulations an employee can be made redundant without explanation. This means that the job which they did ceases. No one else can do it and no one else can be employed for at least one year. The job may be moved elsewhere but no new people can be employed to do it in the new location. Compensation is laid down in terms of the length of time employed in the concern.
One of the problems that the E.U. has is that in general terms, the law cannot anticipate a crime/problem. You can get a ‘Council’s Opinion’ from a lawyer, but that is all it is, an opinion. Any QC or other high ranking lawyer will tell you whilst he/she knows the law, they do not quite know how a judge will interpret it and relate it to other laws. I know it is tricky, but as the large criminal said of the very small judge “These little things are sent to try us”

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