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September 24, 2010

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Pásztor Szilárd

Yes, the Széchenyi Plan is always criticised, particularly by those who don't have enough economic expertise to put it together (read: socialists+liberals), but the first Széchenyi Plan has been proven to work. We can hope the second one will do just as good.

John T

Szilárd - In what areas do you think it worked?

Mark

" Our economists concentrate on a chapter called "Lagging behind in employment" which brings up Czech, Polish and Slovak examples. Behind rapid growth there is greater employment. Of course, this is true but only if the people are engaged in work that allows for high productivity. In the countries mentioned it meant foreign investment by large multinational companies."

I think there are a number of assumptions here that need unpacking. After all let's just look at the statistics shall we?

http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/cache/ITY_PUBLIC/3-04082010-BP/EN/3-04082010-BP-EN.PDF

Hungary's performance is dreadful and worse than the other countries. But of the four mentioned only the Czech Republic has an employment rate above (and even then only just) the EU average. Though Slovakia and Poland perform better than does Hungary their performance remains pretty bad despite their ability to attract FDI.

In fact there are two things that are striking. One is that Central and Eastern Europe performs badly generally on this indicator because of the legacy of previous job destruction. And because the rate of job destruction in the 1990s was higher than in any of its neighbours, it may not be too surprising that it performs less well.

Furthermore, if you begin to probe the competitiveness statistics it is difficult to avoid the conclusion that in CEE FDI has been a mixed blessing. After all, Slovakia's loss of competitiveness has actually been greater than Hungary's since 2002. FDI seems to transform parts of the economy and not the whole and creates uneven development - one can see this in differential economic development between eastern and western Slovakia, just as between eastern and western Hungary. What foreign capital inflow seems to do is raise wages and prices in those parts of the economy it does not transform, thus creating a dual economy which makes it as much part of the problem as the solution.

Of course, high productivity is important. But as the Camrbidge-based development economist, Ha-Joon Chang has written in his new book (which all Hungary's policy makers ought to read): "It is not simply because they are cleverer or better educated that some people in rich countries are hundreds of times more productive than their counterparts in poor countries. They achieve this because they live in economies that have better technologies, better organized firms, better institutions and better physical infrastructure - all things that are in large part products of collective actions taken over generations" (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Things-They-Dont-About-Capitalism/dp/1846143284/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1285414391&sr=8-1)

In other words there are no magic bullets - invest for long-term in the people - and eventually an economy will get results. No-one is going to get rich quick by building spas, or cutting spending, or privatizing their economies. These are illusions.

Gábor

And Mark even did not mention the distortive effect of mass emigration on employment figures, usually nobody takes into account. From Slovakia, Czech Republic, Poland at least a 10th of the workforce went abroad. As a weird effect especially in Poland but also in Slovakia (and one can mention Romania as well) a massive labor shortage emerged even though the employment rate remained lower than the EU average and unemployment figures realtively high.

Pásztor Szilárd

@John T: it worked in the primary sense it was meant to work, that is, to induce economic growth by fuelling up the inner markets. Roughly for every 1 governmental Forint into the economy got 3 more Forints added by the working force (enterprises, people), that is, people were encouraged to work more and put more effort into realizing their plans, be it a house renewal of a large scale construction project. Many opportunities were ignited throughout the country, and in the end, the Plan resulted in more tax income than the original amount pumped into the economy by the government.
This means that the Plan was financially beneficial for both the government budget and for the economy.

This method of the Plan was widely acknowledged and in 2002, even the socialists said they would continue the plan because it had been proven to work, and they said they didn't intend to stop working ideas.
Of course they were lying and they stopped the Plan as soon as they seized power, but that's history.

Why not try this Plan once more?

John T

Szilárd - Thanks for the answer. I'm certainly not against a package to stimulate growth. But what you have outlined does seem somewhat short term and on a relatively. I'd like to see investment in sustainable areas that not only look at the internal market, but also abroad, through exports. Additionally, it needs to be diverse, as there is a danger in putting all your eggs in one basket. For instance, if every town sets up wellness facilities, if there is not a significant increase in users, these extra facilities have to fight for the same customers and many will struggle to survive.

Pásztor Szilárd

@John T: this type of Plan is not necessarily short-time. What keeps the government from doing it persistently? Of course, this is not a comprehensive economic strategy, but it isn't meant to be one. This is intended to stimulate inner growth, and proves very helpful in demanding times when external circumstances are bad.
Other types of investment are additionally required of course, take for example the latest 2 billion-euro investments by Opel and Audi. I'm not surprised that Eva is very silent on such topics.

Eva S. Balogh

Szilárd: "Other types of investment are additionally required of course, take for example the latest 2 billion-euro investments by Opel and Audi. I'm not surprised that Eva is very silent on such topics."

I can only handle a certain number of topics. But if you insist I can certainly mention here the Open and Audi investments. I do hope you don't think that the deal was sealed in two or three months. These negotiations have been going on for years. The beginnings will most likely go back to even the Gyurcsány government. The only good thing is that the Orbán government continued these negotiations and agreed to the terms worked out earlier.

However, I would like to point out that in the case of the Audi deal they refuse to talk about how much this will cost Hungary. They announced the deal but the final stamp of approval by the government will take place only in mid-October, after the elections. Then, apparently they will tell what kind of subsidies Audi will receive in return.

Gábor

Szilárd, you still have serious problems with basic math. 500 million euros (Opel, Szentgotthárd) and 900 million euros (Audi, Győr) add up to 1,4 billion euros. Or, if you wanted to round it: 1 billion, according to the rounding rules I was taught in elementary school. The real problem is that it is again a proof of your propagandist activity, you certainly know how to calculate the sum of two numbers and round the result.

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