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November 21, 2010

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Paul

A few years ago I attended a Summer School lecture given by two Debrecen Egyetem history professors.

I was a so taken aback by how one-sided their account of Hungarian history was, especially regarding Trianon and the Change of Regime, that I asked a few questions at the end.

The lecturers obviously felt that, now the formal part of the lecture was over, they could relax and really express their opinions. And the 'answers' to my questions turned into a blatant Fidesz propaganda session.

Hungarians reading this will no doubt be thinking what did I expect in Debrecen? But this was a university, one of the better ones in Hungary, and these were professors of history. And, even in Hungary, that should count for something.

Odin's lost eye

I do wish that when the Hungarians play the blame game they would get the right culprits. I will list three names and none of them are Hungarian. Since the early part of the 1890s Germany had been preparing to go to war with both Russia and France. This war was to be a war of expansion. By 1914 the Germans were convinced that they were ready. The fun and games in Sarajevo gave Germany was just the pretext they wanted. They persuaded the Austro-Hungarian Empire to attack Serbia. The rest is history.

Oh the names, well there is 'Theobald von Bethmann Hollweg', the German Chancellor, 'Helmuth Johann Ludwig von Moltke' the German Commander in Chief who adulterated the original Schlieffen plan by weakening its northern flank and 'Alexander von Kluck' the commander of the Northern (right wing) of the German advance who lost his nerve and turned his forces south into Compiègne. In doing this he exposed his right flank to the French. The result was the First Battle of the Marne and the German retreat to the River Aisne. Ok there was bit more to it than that.

As von Moltke is reported as saying to ‘Kaiser Bill’ on hearing the news “Your Majesty, we have lost the war.” (That was in 1914)

You start a war, you lose the war, the result is Trianon!

Oh there two other guys you could blame. One is General Franchet d’Esperey and his Fifth Army who struck at the joint between the German First and Second Armies. The Second chap is a little known gent Smith-Dorrian whose actions rather frayed Alexander von Kluck nerves

Karl Pfeifer

Lets have a look on the Treaty of Bucarest

(May 7, 1918), settlement forced upon Romania after it had been defeated by the Central Powers during World War I. According to the terms of the treaty, Romania had to return southern Dobruja to Bulgaria, give Austria-Hungary control of the passes in the Carpathian Mountains, and lease its oil wells to Germany for 90 years. When the Central Powers collapsed in November, the Treaty of Bucharest was nullified.

Those who start a war and loose it have as a rule to pay for it.

FOR Odin's lost eye

"You start a war, you lose the war, the result is Trianon!"

After the Assassination in Sarajevo the Hungarian Prime Minister, István Tisza and his cabinet tried to avoid the breaking out of a war in Europe, but his diplomatic attempts remained unsuccessful. He didn't want to annex Bosnia, because he said: "there are too many slavs in the moarchy.

Look the two war-starters:
Germany lost 10% of its total territory. Austria lost only 9% of its national territory (where people with austrian identity lived) after the war.

Hungary lost 72% of its former territory.

The resposibility of Mihály Károlyi

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