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December 21, 2010

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Bloggingportal.eu

We at Bloggingportal.eu propose a European Blog Action against this bill:
http://www.bloggingportal.eu/blog/european-blog-action-against-censorship-in-hungary/

Eva S. Balogh

"We at Bloggingportal.eu propose a European Blog Action against this bill"

Glad to hear.

Minusio

Too little, too late. The bill is a law by now.

someone

From Reuters, Tuesday, December 21st.

"Luxembourg Foreign Minister Jean Asselborn criticised the [law] in an interview with Reuters in Germany, saying the European Commission must take swift action against it.

"The plans clearly violate the spirit and the letter of EU treaties," Asselborn said, adding: "It raises the question whether such a country is worthy of leading the EU."

Hungary takes over the European Union's rotating presidency on January 1.

"It's a direct danger for democracy," Asselborn said in a telephone interview. "The state will control opinion."

Asselborn said the law would put Hungary in a similar boat as Belarus. "Until now (Alexander) Lukashenko was considered to be the last dictator in Europe. When the law takes effect, that won't be the case any more."

latefor

Re: the protection of children (and adults)
It is welcoming to see that the government is actually doing something to stop the de-sensitization of the innocents and impressinable.
In the case of public broadcasting it would be nice to see (all over the world, not only in Hungary)if the contents of some of the shows would be limited to something like:
1 x murder/week
1 x cut up body/month etc. etc.
I have to stop now as my imagination is running wild!

whoever

Some of the content of 'news' and 'current affairs programmes' - I'm talking about RTL KLUB - is really appalling, and is broadcast as early as 6.30. And I can tell you that I'm no prude, but is it really necessary to present reality show contestants masturbating each other at a time when kids are still awake? The content of Hungarian commercial media is cynical and uncontrolled by any sense of taste. I don't like much of this law, but some of the clauses related to children and subtitling make some sense.

Karl Pfeifer

SEEMO/IPI Press Release: Joint SEEMO/IPI Fact-finding Mission to Hungary Held from 15-16 December 2010
Mission Delegates Meet Broad Array of Media Stakeholders
Vienna, 20 December 2010- The International Press Institute (IPI) and its affiliate, the South and East Europe Media Organisation (SEEMO), held a press freedom fact-finding mission to Hungary on 15-16 December 2010.
The mission participants were: SEEMO Secretary General Oliver Vujovic, SEEMO Board Member Marta Palics, and IPI Press Freedom and Communications Manager Anthony Mills.
The SEEMO/IPI delegation met with a broad array of journalists and state officials, including the head of Hungary's newly-established Media Council, Annamaria Szalai.
The mission came as Hungary's parliament debated another package of media legislation which would significantly expand the powers of the newly-formed Media Council, allowing it to oversee virtually all media in the country.
In recent months, IPI and SEEMO have also expressed concern at legislative efforts - described by the ruling party as necessary media reform - to consolidate public media under a powerful umbrella, and to give the government greater control over the media.
The draft legislation currently being discussed in parliament grants the Media Council the right to monitor the media's compliance with the recently-passed Media Constitution, according to which the media cannot "offend" a variety of entities, including "majorities" and "minorities", "nations" and "the Church". What exactly "offends" means in this context is not spelled out, and journalists IPI spoke to in Hungary warned that the vagueness of the legislation meant that they did not know what they could or could not publish. Under the new legislation, transgressions can be punished with sizeable fines. Critics of the new legislation and Media Council say that the latter is composed entirely of government nominees. However, the Media Council's head, Szalai, assured SEEMO/IPI that the body was independent.
Parliament has been debating the bill - which enjoys overwhelming support from centre-right government parties - for the past week or so, and is expected to pass it any day now.
In a related development, the SEEMO/IPI mission heard that the right-wing Jobbik party had proposed that the draft legislation currently under debate also include a limit on the amount of air time that can be devoted to "crime" in any newscast.
In November, Hungary's parliament passed legislation ostensibly aimed at promoting press freedom but which in fact allows for journalists to be forced to give up their confidential sources in cases involving vaguely-defined 'national security'.
Critics of the media legislation packages passed in recent months in Hungary complain that it was rushed through parliament without consultation with key stakeholders and journalists. Proponents of the legislation have said the need for reform was urgent and could not be delayed.
Critics also noted that the new media authority is to supervise both print and online media and that this goes against international standards and will have a serious chilling effect on reporting.
SEEMO Secretary General Oliver Vujovic said: "Hungary has a vital role in the EU. The Hungarian Government is due to take over the presidency of the European Union and the country should be a positive example of developments in all areas, including media. The fact that the new law was passed very fast, without a wide, open discussion between media professionals, and that some elements of the new regulation have been criticized by media professionals, is a cause for concern. We will now have to see how the new regulations work in practice, and will monitor media developments in Hungary, and then visit the country again. Corrections are always possible, which means that there may be amendments to the new law after some months. "
IPI Press Freedom and Communications Manager Anthony Mills said: "We welcomed the opportunity to meet with key media stakeholders in Hungary, and to discuss with them the serious concerns that have been raised about the new media legislation in recent months. We will be closely following the situation in the coming days and weeks." The South and East Europe Media Organisation (SEEMO) fully supports this statement. **** For further information, please contact: Mirjana Milosevic SEEMO Press Freedom Coordinator South and East Europe Media Organisation (SEEMO) www.seemo.org

Vladimir

Am wondering if there was anything within the Fidesz campaign back last spring promising media reform? Or is this one of the phantom planks that they were voted in on?


Eva S. Balogh

whoever: "I don't like much of this law, but some of the clauses related to children and subtitling make some sense."

My problems are not with these parts of the law. I even said so in case of foreign-language films.

But, for example, Media can be forced to reveal their sources, the media authority can search editorial offices, can copy reporters’ notes and mandate that publishers hand over confidential business information and levy serious fines on those that refuse.

GDF

"As for radio stations, 35% of the music they broadcast must be Hungarian"

Another Ceausescu-like move. During the darkest days of his reign one could rarely hear anything else but Romanian folk songs on any radio station. The effect was not the desired one: many started to dislike the genre...

Odin's Lost Eye

So it has been voted into law. Now Europe can act.
Minuiso In Europe you cannot anticipate an offence; you can only act after the event. Europe has probably been warning Hungary about what Fidesz is up to, but OV (the Mighty One) is so full of his own importance and greatness that he does not care. He still will not care after the brown and smelly hits the fan.

OV (the Mighty One) believes that he can use Hungary’s vote in the Council of Europe to stifle any actions against his activities in Hungary. He also believes that he can use Hungary’s position in the European road network as leverage. If his Fidesz gooks have not spotted this they are dimmer than I thought

If Hungary left Europe the all the lands to the south would be cut off from the rest of the Union. A quick glance at Google Earth will show this to be essentially true as there are two blockages or choke points, the Ukraine and Serbia. The European infrastructure fund has financed four major routes (motorways/freeways) through Hungary and a link route through Austria. Close them and everything would have to go via Taranto/Bari and then by sea to Greece and via a single route part of which is used to supply the peace keepers in Macadonia (FYROM). The rest of the route to Bulgaria and Romania is mountainous, difficult and not yet complete.

I wonder how he will deal with ex-pats who contribute to blogs which are beyond even his mighty power to control. People like Rigó Jancsi and I. The Mighty One cannot stand criticism and not being loved. For those want a chuckle try this because history is repeating its self. http://www.last.fm/music/Spike+Jones/_/Der+Fuehrer%27s+Face
I hope it works!
Sorry I put it in the wrong place

someone

Some people misunderstand the intention of this law. Of course everyone wants balanced journalism and balanced entertainment, but how far can you go to to regulate it. In Canada we have the CRTC (Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission), there is the Human Rights Commission, the Advertising Standards of Canada, etc. Many of them has codes and guidelines (not laws, but that too), but all of them act for a basic purpose, to support social norms that are may or may not put into law.In Hungary I find that social norms are changing with each government, and the need to stand up or not for certain things is open for interpretation. (The difference between hate speech, hate propaganda and freedom of speech.) Fidesz (again) took a populist approach in the name of "We will protect the children! We will protect Hungary!" and turned it into a tool to keep control. This new Law is not about protecting anything or anyone (beside the Fidesz) but to keep control, and to silence the press.
(To say that this is a great law, because it will not allow children to watch garbage is ridiculous.)

Joe Simon

Hungarian media need some quality control. Once coming from the airport I was shocked listening to a man on the radio talking about his relationship with 'Sanyika', obviously a minor. He then asked listeners with similar sexual tastes to contact him. Or there is Csurka's Weekly paper where open 'zsidózás' is on every page. Nothing of that sort would be permitted in Canada for example. I just hope that FIDESZ will tread lightly here. You know the expression: fools rush in where angels fear to tread.

Paul

Nice to hear from reasonable 'Joe' again. Let's not stress about state media control because it might stop one or two minor infringements of (his) taste.

And, as always, 'Joe' assures us that we can trust OV not to go too far.

Freedom of the press (media) is either total, or it doesn't exist. It's like pregnancy - you can't be a little bit pregnant.

You may not like all its implications, but a little soft porn and the odd radio comment you don't agree with (or even, from a personal perspective, the whole of Hungarian TV!) is a small price to pay to stop the government controlling the news and opinions Hungarians receive.

And, whether you believe it or not, that is definitely the direction OV is heading in. He doesn't care a toss about your sensitivities, he just wants total control over the media so Hungarians never read or hear anything bad about his government.

Leo

I spent some time checking Dutch internet media on Hungary´s press law, because this may prove to be an important moment.

Usually interest in Hungarian affairs is low here, and today is no exception. Sure, all newspapers have critical accounts of the law (with the possible exception of the largest, right wing De Telegraaf, it´s international news section being headlined by a German litter of 17 puppies). But in most cases these reports are not more than an echo of what seems to be a note from a press agency.

It is mentioned that Hungary will have Europe´s strictest media law, that a government appointed agency will have the freedom to hand out heavy penalties at will, that the OCSE has shown serious concern in the matter and that there has been some protest in Hungary. It´s also pointed out that Hungary will take over EU-presidency on January 1th.

The newspapers show however little involvement with a subject that should be more close to their hearts. It´s almost as if something like this is to be expected in an exotic and far away country like Hungary. The centre-left daily De Volkskrant compares the Hungarian press law to Chávez´s latest gimmick (but the comparison of Orbán and Chávez is indeed intriguing). Elsewhere comparisons with White Russia were made. Europe is obviously not very real, not even in this country.

It may well be that the paper editions were more elaborate. My own paper, the leading daily NRC-Handelsblad featured a 50 word item on the front page yesterday. On page 9 however an article by former minister of EU-affairs Frans Timmermans gave a correct factual description of the law and its backgrounds, followed by a very critical evaluation. Timmermans stated that the law cannot be considered as just an internal Hungarian affair, EU members should take responsibility for civil rights anywhere in the Union. He did however not propose concrete measures.

The best report was a seven minutes news item on our first television channel yesterday in NOS Nieuwsuur. It was presented by a well known reporter and featured short interviews with Lendvai and Bolgár (in English – the complete Lendvai interview can also be found on this link: http://nieuwsuur.nl/onderwerp/206525-nieuwe-mediawet-beknot-hongaarse-journalistiek.html ).

NRC´s website reports that Dutch delegates intend to take the matter to the EU-parliament. Among them also some Christian-Democrats. That´s interesting because they are like Fidesz part of the EPP. I would not hold my breath though, the EPP recently blocked attempts to take measures against the erosion of civil liberties in Italy .

Still it seems important to exercise pressure on EPP members to distance themselves from shady characters like Berlusconi and Orbán. Angela Merkel at least should know what it means to live in a country without a free press.

someone

Joe: " Or there is Csurka's Weekly paper where open 'zsidózás' is on every page. Nothing of that sort would be permitted in Canada for example. I just hope that FIDESZ will tread lightly here. "
You are right, this would not be tolerated, but as I said this is not in the media law. "The Criminal Code prohibits "hate propaganda." The Canadian Human Rights Act prohibits discrimination on various grounds, and forbids the posting of hateful or contemptuous messages on the Internet. Legislation in the provinces and territories prohibits discrimination on the same grounds as Canada's Human Rights Act in matters of provincial or territorial concern such as employment and accommodation." As you see this is Criminal Code issue. Recruiting minors for sexual activity considers to be Sexual Exploitation and it is also criminal offence and not a media issue. (If the media broadcasts sexual exploitation messages then this is a criminal offence.)
Freedom of speech is protected in Canada in the media or otherwise and this should be not mixed up with criminal issues.
"Toronto – The Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario has ruled that newspaper editorials are not covered by Ontario’s Human Rights Code. The Ontario Human Rights Commission (OHRC) intervened in this case, Whiteley v. Osprey Media Publishing Inc. and Sun Media Corporation before the Tribunal. The OHRC argued that section 13 of the Code does not restrict newspapers from printing opinions that some people may not like. The Tribunal agreed, saying “…publication of opinion in the media is a matter at the core of freedom of expression and freedom of the press in a democratic society”.
The problem is that the new media law passes over unlimited power to people who are not qualified morally or legally to enforce criminal and/or human rights complaints. You cannot lump sum everything into the media law as these offences should be dealt with by the court system, not by some hoydy-toydy politicians who been placed in this position for kissing up to the right people.

Eva S. Balogh

Leo, thank you for the description of the Dutch media. I will actually try to translate with the help of Google translate the article you mention. It was nice seeing Bolgar on the video. I like him enormously. Fantastically well informed guy with a memory of an elephant.

Rich

Thanks Leo, have a look at http://www.hongarijevandaag.nl
(Europa bezorgd over Hongaarse mediawet)

Groet.

kormos

I did not read the newly legislated media law, but it is obvious that it is different from previous practice.
Do other EU Countries have media laws? If yes, could someone detail the significant differences between French, German and the newly minted Hungarian media law?
Do other EU Countries have media control agency and does such agency have the duty of right to set fines for noncompliance?

someone

To kormos: media laws do exist. It is important to understand that there are different rules apply for media that is funded by the State (non commercial), and for profit/independent private media. Those rules are not part of the "general " media legislations/rules/regulations.

Here are a few links for your interest about EU guidelines, rules, Green Papers, etc.
http://ec.europa.eu/avpolicy/reg/minors/rec/index_en.htm
http://ec.europa.eu/avpolicy/reg/minors/index_en.htm
German Broadcasting Law explanation: http://www.iuscomp.org/gla/literature/broadcst.htm
France Audiovisual Communication:
http://www.csa.fr/multi/index.php?l=uk

Paul

I was going to say that we don't have media laws in the UK, but then I thought about it for a while, and I'm ashamed to say we do - some of them even more draconian than OV's. But at least we don't have blanket laws designed to stifle political debate or restrict 'uncomfortable' news (that is achieved quite effectively by the fact that the overwhelming majority of newspapers are right-wing anyway!).

Perhaps the most obvious UK media law is the constitution governing the BBC, which requires the corporation to be politically balanced (I think the same applies to the terrestrial commercial stations as well).

Beyond this well meaning (and mostly successful) legislation, there is no general media law, beyond trying to make advertisers behave (e.g. not actually lying about their products).

But we do have a dark side to all this, and that's where both the courts and the government can stop certain opinions or news stories from being printed or broadcast altogether. This is often very dark indeed, as they can also restrict or forbid discussion of these bans, so the media can't even tell us they've been banned from telling us about something!

The government can issue a 'D notice', which prevents stories being used on 'national security' grounds. Anyone breaking this notice can be jailed, and D notices often apply for many years, sometimes decades.

The courts have similar powers where someone thinks that release of certain information or opinions might damage them unfairly. If they can persuade a judge of this, the court can order a complete ban on anything to do with the story - including reporting the ban itself.

These bans (when we find out years later!) are often about what appear to be trivial matters, such as suggestions of a footballer's marital infidelities, or sexuality.

I detect a growing intolerance within the media against the courts behaving so draconianally, with more and more editors being prepared to hint at what they are not allowed to report, or occasionally even print and be dammed. So maybe it's the beginning of the end for this aspect of media control.

Last, but certainly not least, there is the UK's peculiar laws of libel and slander. And this is probably the most successfully used means of controlling the media. It shouldn't be this way, in theory, but, in practise, it's so expensive to fight a libel case, that most people just back down when threatened with one.

Thus the rich and powerful, both individuals and, especially, large companies can stop a story with just a wave of a writ. Occasionally newspapers, etc will stand up against this, but none of them can afford to do this very often, not just because of the fatal level of costs if they lose, but because of the sheer time and effort involved.

So, no, we don't really have a totally free press in the UK, but I still think we have far greater media freedom than Hungary now does.

(I may well have some of the above wrong.)

Sebastian

Hello there, thanks for the interesting article. I find it hard to obtain first hand information about this (by somebody who has actually read the hungarian document himself).
I have a technical question: Who exactly are the members of the NMHH appointed by? Can you briefly describe the process? How long do they stay in their position, and are they all replaced at the same time?
Thank you so much!

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