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April 26, 2011

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kormos

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/age-america-end-2016-china-blows-past-us-154221921.html%20?sec=topStories&pos=2&asset=&ccode

....and young investors are buying up successful
Chinese Companies.
The Shanghai Agreement works in the background.

Paul

Thank you, Professor Gati, an excellent piece.

Although I did smile slightly awkwardly at the last sentence!

someone

I am very sorry, but I must bring back some questions from 5-6 subjects before, as I really want to give a chance to Johnny Boy to answer some questions. Johnny Boy feels that many politicians on the "left" served the Kadar Regime, and they should deserve no break. Also Johnny Boy feels that we should break away anything and everything that is communist. Johnny Boy was on holiday so he did not have a chance to answer to those questions, so here we go with an other try:
1. What did You (johnny) or your parents do against the "terror" between 1956-1988. You are so proud that you did not serve that government, not like the others who did, so what did your family do?
2. What did Orban do prior to 1988 to not serve the regime?
2. What is your opinion about the cosy political talks between China and the Fidesz? Do you think the Fidesz is about to turn the Chinese into a real democracy?

Mutt Damon

I think the last sentence means the *Americans* will work to advance the triumph of democratic values no matter who is at the table.

Jano

Paul: Okay, so it was not just me about the last sentence:) I happened to read the post almost right after watching Armageddon (with Bruce Willis) on TV, and it suddenly just got too much:)

Paul

I was just thinking of all the very NON-democratic regimes the Americans have supported and promoted over the years. The balance of their actions must be very much AGAINST democracy overall.

The USA's actions are far more motivated by what they deem to be in their interests than the democratic credentials of the sides in the dispute.

GDF

Paul:"The USA's actions are far more motivated by what they deem to be in their interests than the democratic credentials of the sides in the dispute."

I think this was more true during the Cold War period than it is now.

GDF

To Jano: Those who know me would not imply that I am trying to defend any of the Obama administration's foreign policy decisions. However, I would take with a grain of salt any article form a media outlet tha defines itself this way: "Despite the combined Eurasia and Afro-Asia areas containing over 70% of the world’s population, news continues to be dominated by a U.S. slant, and that is where Eurasia Review - an independent news outlet – enters the picture by providing a different perspective on current events."

I also would like to add that I said "more true than it is now", not that it is completely excluded now. By the way, as an American I do expect the American government to act in the interest of the USA.

Paul

It's not just down to democratic v non-democratic, either.

Much of today's political instability and world-wide terror can be traced back pretty directly to Israel's behaviour - most of which would not have been possible without the uncritical and massive 'aid' they have received from the US over the last 65 years.

I look forward to the US attacking the Israeli air force, etc, in order to protect the Palestinians from the steady annexation of their land - something, I might add, declared illegal by the UN several times.

Jano

GDF: "By the way, as an American I do expect the American government to act in the interest of the USA."

Yes and that's nothing wrong with that, just leave the cheesy sentences and I'll be ok with that. (Of course, I know this was rethorics in Gati's article, but me and Paul just have the right to smile at it awkwardly) Despite all my negative feelings, I still think the US is the best of the now existing great powers (Russia or China, e.g) and I have a rather pragmatic approach to foreign policy, I'm just having a hard time taking the bullshit that's all.

David

"Much of today's political instability and world-wide terror can be traced back pretty directly to Israel's behaviour - most of which would not have been possible without the uncritical and massive 'aid' they have received from the US over the last 65 years."

Sounds like you'll be writing for Barikad next....

Paul

The old favourite, 'he's commented negatively on Israel, he must be 'anti-Semetic'' response, eh? I thought much better of you.

You will find no firecer critic of anti-Semitism than me. I have practically alienated myself from half my family over this. It is the single thing that most distresses me about Hungary.

But supporting the Jews (or even being a Jew in many cases) does not mean you support Israel or the awful way it behaves.

Once, when attacking terrorists, Thatcher said that we should "starve them of the oxygen of publicity". But the real way to deal with terrorism is to "starve them of the oxygen of injustice".

As long as Israel carries on as it does, that feeling of injustice towards the Islamic/Arab peoples (whether real or imagined) will continue to grow.

If the US really wanted to conduct a 'war on terror' their first step would be to get Israel to conform to the UN resolutions.

Mutt Damon

@Paul They will find another "injustice". The important is the enemy. The arabs made Palestine a propaganda tool to stock up with enemies for the long run. Anyway it's understandable why Israel, a country that was attacked by the Arabs numerous times, is a bit leery giving up anything.

David

"You will find no firecer critic of anti-Semitism than me. I have practically alienated myself from half my family over this. It is the single thing that most distresses me about Hungary."

While this is admirable, surely you must wonder why your views on the Jewish State are pretty similar to those who believe all sorts of lunatic Jewish conspiracy theories? Might this not suggest that your views are a bit unbalanced?

Attributing "much of today's political instability and world-wide terror" to Israel seems a massive exaggeration.

The Palestinians and their Arab sponsor countries have had chance after chance for peace, yet they continually choose war.

Andy

Israel and the arab countries are a "róka fogta csuka-csuka fogta róka" I guess they deserve each other.

Polgreg

poor pathetic prof from local US university:
Hungary has much longer history than you can imagine and and Hungarian nation do not need lecture like your one above. Frankly, your remarks are insolent!!! You spend a lot of time on studying and developing your anti-communism. Great. I can advice you: now you can start your study on US power decline which was started with famous G.W.Bush presidency and Monroe doctrine extended worldwide is not enough. People in Hungary, Uganda, New Zeland, Afganistan and even in Poland (yes, yes, the Poland where as people saying, agent Sikorski is foreign ministry) where I'm living can have better sort of democracy than US model. So on good bay: get lost prof from Hungary and focus on the local issues like what to do to reduce US debts, reduce unemployment rate and maybe some trivial social equility implement.

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