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May 27, 2011

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Jano

Can anybody explain to me briefly, how corruption is measured? What is the exact definition of corruption?

I would really like to know because the term "corruption is rising" is rather vague to me (not that I don't believe the intuitive meaning)

someone

Janio, direct from the Transparency International's website:
Transparency International(TI) defines corruption as the abuse of entrusted power for private gain. This definition encompasses corrupt practices in both the public and private sectors. The Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI) ranks countries according to the perception of corruption in the public sector. The CPI is an aggregate indicator that combines different sources of information about corruption, making it possible to compare countries.

The 2010 CPI draws on different assessments and business opinion surveys carried out by independent and reputable institutions. It captures information about the administrative and political aspects of corruption. Broadly speaking, the surveys and assessments used to compile the index include questions relating to bribery of public officials, kickbacks in public procurement, embezzlement of public funds, and questions that probe the strength and effectiveness of public sector anti-corruption efforts.
http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2010

Odin's lost eye

The Supreme and Beloved Leader (Orban Victor) could quite easily put an end to all corruption in Hungary.

How? You ask.

Simple he legalises all demands for ‘dropsy’ (bribes, kickbacks, embezzelment etc) by calling them ‘Consultancy Fees’.

Hungary is now corruption free!

Kirsten

Jano, I would have said (certainly no official definition of corruption) it is when the rules governing some decision-making are not or cannot be enforced so that informal processes dominate, which makes corruption easy (but in some cases also necessary because the "official" way of coordination and decision making cannot be enforced. And this "cannot" means that the society is not strong enough to enforce it through the controls not general moral inferiority of all people in that society as typically understood, and "corruption" is then the alternative - and functioning - coordination mechanism. Very technical but perhaps comprehensible.). But there is an academic literature about it, which even knows of different types of corruption (Asian style, Southern European style and so on). I read some texts on it once but seem to have forgotten it all. If I find some suitable reference I add it here.

John T

Interesting to see on portfolio.hu that the Economics ministry is cutting 10% of its current staff, but then replacing them with new ones in a "quality exchange". Anyone recruited since the last election is OK though. Wonder if the new recruits will be posted through open and fair competition or through political affiliation.
There should be a simple principle here - the ability to do the job. If you are a poor performer, then fine, you'll get the sack. But if they are sacked solely because their (political) faces don't fit, then it beggars belief - no actually it doesn't in the current mess that is modern day Hungary. I have to say, it makes me feel lucky I have British as well as Hungarian heritage. For all the problems we have in Britain(and we have a fair few), we don't sink to this level of pettiness and discrimination.

John T

Also on portfolio.hu, I'm interested in todays story about the EU telling Hungary not to tell the truth about its economy, as it might add to the sovereign default problems in the block. As Greece is currently in dire straits and due to hold talks with the EU later this week, the timing of this announcement is hardly helpful. It seems to me Matolcsy is saying the EU told Hungary to cover up (or lie) about its economic situation, whereas the government had wanted to come clean on it all along. Wonder how this one will run?

someone

John T: "the Economics ministry is cutting 10% of its current staff, but then replacing them with new ones in a "quality exchange"
Maybe the Chinese exchange program will replace them. (Sorry, I know it is not funny for those who are loosing their jobs, but I just could not resist. )

So, it is an interesting turn: "When Hungary’s Prime Minister asked EU leaders to let Hungary come clean about the truth, their response was that "we cannot admit that", because there are some member states whose open financial meltdown pose serious risks and the bloc’s budget should not be burdened by the problems of yet another country, Matolcsy said.
This was when the government switched to an economic policy communication by which they started to reveal the actual situation gradually.
He said it is the duty of any PM in Hungary to admit the truth, adding that it was the right decision by Viktor Orbán to go up to EU leaders and try this. "
So Orban and Matolcsy are admitting that they have lied to the Hungarian people. Matolcsy really is saying "“We lied morning, noon, and night” So, who has to go now?

Kirsten

John T, any such situation as now with Greece can have a number of outcomes, so "the truth" and what follows of this "truth" is a matter of what is being done or not by the many involved parties. Communication can make a difference. But why Hungary should add to the Greek problem as it is not a country using the euro, I have not yet figured out. For me the words of Matolcsy are story-telling for the public in Hungary. It's hard to believe that this can be done over and over.

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