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June 26, 2011

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Paul

Éva, apologies in advance that my only comment on this article is going to be way off topic.


My wife has just mentioned something interesting. I asked her how the Chinese love-in was going down at home and she passed over this pretty quickly (I'm not actually sure she knew what I meant), but she did tell me - with pride - that OV was imposing a special tax on "non-healthy" foods, such as MacDonald's burgers, etc.

Anyone else heard of this or can give any more detail?

It struck me as quite funny that a country with such an appallingly unhealthy diet (fat, salt, sugar, and more fat) should feel itself in a position to criticise MacDonald's.

Hungary must be one of the few countries where it would actually be healthier to switch to a diet of fast food!

Jim

Yes, it's going to be a salt-and-sugar tax. Originally it was expected to be a burger tax, but apparently that has changed. They are saying the potato-chip makers and the like will immediately cut a few thousand jobs in Hungary. And of course the poor will pay disproportionately, since this is a flat tax.

I don't know why there isn't a Pick salami tax. That stuff will really kill you.

Jim

(An article in today's nol.hu says they're still working out what items the tax will apply to:

http://nol.hu/gazdasag/tovabbi_termekekre_is_kivetnek_a_chipszadot

As I recall, energy drinks fall under this category, and they are considering applying it to caffeine drinks as well. Huge mistake! If there's one thing Hungary desperately needs, it's a more active and motivated populace.)

Paul

Interesting for a country where it's almost impossible to buy suger-free fizzy drinks in most shops. And where iced tea (full of sugar) seems to be the staple drink from ages baby upwards.

Taxing MacDonald's etc for sugar and salt where the average cook puts vast quantities of both in just about every thing she/he cooks (whether needed or not!), is pushing the Fidesz irony-meter off the scale.

What about butter, while they're at it? My wife puts so much butter on vegetables that you can't taste which vegetable is which!

Ron

Here is another article (in Dutch) about this tax.

http://www.scribblesfromhungary.com/2011/06/hongarije-voert-hamburgerbelasting-in.html

Just use google translate.

About a potential other curious "tax" is extreme tax. It is actually not a tax, but you need to pay extra in Hospital or other medical treatment if you have injuries caused by extreme activities. What is extreme I do not know. It is just a plan.

The Hungarians must hate themsleves that they voted down the HUF 300 per doctors visit in a referendum. I wonder if they would voted down these recent tax and labour laws.

Furthermore, I wonder how long this tax will last. I assume that most Hungarians will go over the border for their weekly shoppings. You could see the effect when the sugar prices went through the roof.

Ron

Sorry Eva there is simply not too much to say about these judges.

I was just wondering if Peter Szalay becomes judge, does it mean that he cannot act as lawyer for Fidesz/VO? I assume that have a replacement for him.

Or did he become judge as a promotion, so that he cannot testify in court later on?

Paul

Thanks for the links, Jim and Ron (Lolka Bolka!). The Dutch article is quite funny (even in translaton) - e.g. the remark about the Jobbik doctor.

Jim's link contains an interesting comment too - the apparent intention to extend the tax to sugar-free drinks. So, you pay tax on both highly sugared drinks AND low-calorie ones. Quite what message are they trying to get across there??


Sorry, Éva, I didn't mean to hijack the entire thread like this.

Mutt Damon

Well, screw the judges. They were confirmed 2 hours ago.

I'm wondering what's healthier, a burger or the "pacal pörkölt" ?

Paul

They'd better not tax lángos!

Jim

No tax, but they're considering forced labor for eating lángos.

Paul

A hot day at the strand, lángos with tejföl and a cold beer...

Can even OV ruin that?

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