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June 24, 2011

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Mutt Damon

Hang on ... are we talking about unions in the public sector? Independent unions cannot be forced to do anything. What happens if the employees just stop working for any reason? Will go to jail? Or is this again some Orban big mouth idiocy that absolutely means nothing in reality?

Paul

Mutt, I'm afraid union power can disappear very quickly indeed.

In the UK before Thatcher the unions were very strong, perhaps too strong, and both government and business had to take them seriously. They effectively brought down the previous Tory Prime Minister (Ted Heath).

No one would have believed that this power could be reduced. Governments had tried it before and had always lost. It was impossible to believe that the workers would allow institutions to be destroyed that had taken a hundred years or more to build, which had cost a great deal of suffering in their creation, and which were the only safeguard of the working people's wages and conditions.

But Thatcher took on the unions and, in just a few years, had brought them to their knees. Rigid rules on strike ballots were introduced, making it both long winded and expensive to call a strike (and easy to declare it unlawful, even if it was called) and sympathy strikes were banned. Unions could no longer call strikes easily and could no longer strike to support each other.

Without the ability to threaten and take industrial action, and without the ability to support each other and present a united front, the unions were left with no bargaining power. Once once people realised this, the union's membership declined very rapidly.

It's amazing just how quickly centuries of progress can be destroyed by the reactionaries, if the people just stand by and let it happen.

TOVÁBB?

Forward to Romania.
Union with Romania is the best way to eliminate the nemzeti orban plots.
If there are no intelligent hungarian political leaders, let us subcontract the governing of hungary to the intelligent romanians.

Paul

What about union with Romania, Slovakia, Ukraine, Serbia and Croatia?

It might be difficult to come up with a name for such a union, but I'm sure Fidesz would be happy with 'Greater Hungary'.


Lutra lutra

I can't imagine the EU giving any kind of financial support to projects that so distort the labour market, in which case it might end up costing the country more than a sane public works programme.
Besides, is there any discussion of a pilot project to see whether it's possible to implement? What's to stop doctors from signing off the long-term unemployed as sick/disabled, how will quality standards/deadlines be enforced and how will former forced labourers be rehabilitated - sorry, how will participants be returned to the labour market?

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