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September 29, 2011

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Rigó Jancsi

Ja gut... ähhh... der Orbán... der Ungar an sich... da steigt man in die S-Bahn und ist... und ist... ähhh... sechs Stunden später in Bukarest... äh.... Budapest... das ist phänomenal... ähhhh... der Orbán... ähhh... Horst, wer ist das doch gleich? Warum habe ich den eingeladen?

Sorry for the German, but whenever I hear "Stoiber", I start to splutter... :-)

Ron

Professor: It is a well known fact that these court proceedings drag on for years and by that time either Viktor Orbán will not be the prime minister of Hungary and it will be his successor's headache.

I think you will be surprised about the swiftness. I think the decision will be made in 2013 or 2014 at the latest. Therefore, it will be this government's headache.

For example, this VAT repayment issue, became an issue in 2004, but the Bajnai government should have solved it. And they did not. The decision was a year later.

However, if it will be the next government's problem. It will be a real problem as they most likely will not have a 2/3 majority and therefore, cannot adjust the tax law under the constitution.

orban's victims

I need more input.

The European court reviews cases, like the telecom tax, like the VAT, and the Hungarian parliament will be expected to create legal arrangement accordingly.
Will a corresponding compliance of the parliament be assured?

This is a constitutional puzzle between EU and Hungary.

Some1

I believe that Orban is in his way out from the EU. I think he really considers the "my way or the highway" approach. He will not accept any more "intervention" in his "Wonderland" he is creating for Hungary. Do not forget that this is the guy, who recently reinforced by open public speeches that "there is life outside the EU", the "EU cannot tell us what to do", the "West is in decline". His desire to attach Hungary to "Champion China" is well-known "secret". His ambitions for Hungary is the same as for himself, changing values, changing alliances, changing religions,depending on which direction are the "wind is blowing" from.

Ron

orban's victims: Will a corresponding compliance of the parliament be assured?

Even this new constitution need to be adjusted. EU law and/or verdict are higher than the Constitution. So if the Constitution is not adjusted than the law will be automatically superseded by the EU Court verdict. In other words the law will be null and void.

 Eva S. Balogh

Some1: "I believe that Orban is in his way out from the EU. I think he really considers the "my way or the highway" approach."

But then there will be no more money from Brussels which he very badly needs.

Johnny Boy

Ron: "to be adjusted. EU law and/or verdict are higher than the Constitution. So if the Constitution is not adjusted than the law will be automatically superseded by the EU Court verdict."

Which part of the Constitution is not in accordance with which EU law?

Mutt Damon

Bajnai is on CNBC:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/44730394

Ron

Mutt Damon: Bajnai is on CNBC.
Yes, but it is about Greece, the EU and the economic situation in general, and what needs to be done or questions that needs to be addressed. Nothing about Hungary.

Talking bout Greece. Today, I was reading in one of the Dutch newspapers, that the Ministry of finance in Holland develop all kinds of scenarios for the Greek and EU borrowing situation. One of the scenarios is that they forgive 50% of the government debts to jump start the Greek economy.

As far as I understand the Greek debts is 130, compared to Hungary 77. If the EU follow this scenario (forgiving 50% debts), than in the end Greece end up with a debt of 65. I was just thinking if this was not the scenario the Greek PM was following. If so, he is a better player than VO.

Some1

Eva: "But then there will be no more money from Brussels which he very badly needs." He will get some money somewhere else, and he will write off Hungary's debt the same way as he wrote of the forex debt. He will repay Hungary's debt 1:2 or by some other scheme. Orban does not think for long term, if he would, he would not try to push everything through as it pops to his head.

Some1

Ooops, I just read Ron's comment about Greece's debt "(forgiving 50% debts)". Well, if Greece is already employing this technique, I bet Orban will use this as a precedent, but instead of my original prediction of 1:2 , he will use 1:3, because Hungary started lower.

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I think the decision will be made in 2013 or 2014 at the latest. Therefore, it will be this government's headache.

For example, this VAT repayment issue, became an issue in 2004, but the Bajnai government should have solved it. And they did not. The decision was a year later. I was reading in one of the Dutch newspapers,

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