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« Increasing pressure on the Hungarian government | Main | The approaching crisis: Viktor Orbán on a collision course »

December 29, 2011

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An

I just wonder how these voting machines in the Parliament get up in the morning and look in the mirror... especially the smarter ones. No bad feelings, not a spark of conscience; they just let OV drive the country to the wall. For example, Navracsics, a former professor of political science. He really should see that what OV is doing is the mockery of democracy.

These people really deserve to be called "bovli"; or rather, junk (junk has a lot stronger negative connotation than "bovli" in Hungarian)

Well, I'm trying to cherish what's good about Hungary by making some Hungarian beef goulash (marhaporkolt).

Ron

An: Vorosboros Marhaporkolt? Most Hungarians cannot afford this anymore.

An

Ron, I know (and yes, found some cheap vorosbor in the fridge)... it's becoming quite a treat here too.

Paul

Slightly OT - but here is the reply from the BBC to my complaint about the biased Klubrádió 'coverage':

"Thank your for your email commenting on our coverage of the closure of the Hungarian radio station Klubradio. We chose to cover the story in the context of the protests against the government because we didn't feel that it merited a separate piece on the day. The protest was a good way to get into a story for our readers. The reason we carried the government statement on the closure of Klubradio was that this was the story on the day.

I can assure you that we have no attachment of any sort to the Hungarian government and therefore you have no need to worry about bias. However we are certainly monitoring the implementation of the media law in Hungary and hope to do a story in the near future about the hunger strikers. So I can promise you we won't ignore Hungary in the coming days and months."

As bland as expected, but at least they're aware of the hunger strike.

An

One of the last minute modifications to the new Constitution (that goes into effect January 1st) passed today:

The Chief Prosecutor has the right to choose which court (and thus practically which judge) tries which case . This was originally found unconstitutional by the Constitutional Court, and had to be taken out from the new Criminal Code.

But Fidesz solved the problem by adding this rule to the new Constitution itself! (the Constitutional Court cannot rule on the Constitution)

Beautiful.

oneill


Paul,

"As bland as expected, but at least they're aware of the hunger strike."

I got a similar although not identical reply, which I have posted on an earlier thread. The important point is that the complaints of bias have been registered and I suspect Thorpe will be a bit more circumspect in the future.

Gábor

An, yes and no. Actually when this summer they investigated whether they can deal with amendments of the constitution in terms of their constitutionality they formulated very carefully and did not exclude that in the future they have to intervene and interpret the constiution (or even decide over the constitutionality of such legislation) in order to ensure its compliance with Hungary's existing international obligation. I tend to interpret the way they pointed at the international treaties in their respective decision as a warning shot... It was all the more interesting as Péter Kovács, the specialist of international law in the court attached a deviating opinion arguing even more strongly in favor of examining constitutional amendments according to their compliance with international treities and Kovács is an in-law of János Áder.

An

@Gabor: I am very doubtful that this highly diluted constitutional court will have the guts to speak up against this. They definitely should, even if that wouldn't change anything and even if with such a move they would risk their "powers" further diluted by OV in retaliation. Just out of principle, they should speak up.

Some1

An, I assume they were all sleeping when they voted on this change. I think the last two weeks work should be tossed out on technicality at some point. At this point I do not have any doubt It will not be a challenge to any new incoming government to toss out the whole garbage Fidesz heaped up. Signing any contract under undue pressure, unreasonable time frame, under the influence (sleep deprivation) and contrary to existing laws are just a handful of reasons why it would be invalidated at any court. You do not even need a good lawyer, just proof that any of those basic conditions for signing a contract were not meet.

Gábor

@An: I was only referring to whether Fidesz solved the problem with cementing the rule in the constitution.

An

@Gabor: I did not bring this up to show how Fidesz "cemented" this rule, as I hope that some1 is right and the whole forced-speed law-making process can be legally challenged.

I was just quoting this to illustrate how insolent, arrogant, cynical and undemocratic the Fidesz machinery has become... to those readers who still need more proof to see that.

Gábor

Well, if the Constitutional Court will listen to the spirit of the time they can carry out a legal coup d'état, simply annul every single act of Fidesz and dismiss their minions. But I fear they would need very hard proof that it would be the safest way to save themselves. :)

Welcome to the Monkey House

While I'm worried sick over what this stubborn tyrant and his boy-friday, Cross-eyed Georgie are doing with Hungary, I cannot resist to comment that the reference to Hungary as "a country that belongs to the European Union" is most inappropriate, at least I very much hope so. As much as we are aware of where the money is and where power lies, I certainly hope that Hungary does not belong TO the EU,but rather belongs IN the EU.

I love Hungary

Hungary will soon belong TO China.

As the Chinese will happily fund a puppet in Europe.

Orban will happily be the puppet of anyone who lets him play dictator- and finances it.

Ironic that the former Young Democrat will lead his country to become the first EU (former) country back into the status of "commuinst sattelite"- even though he is National Socialist.

Seems the young democrat wasn't battling tyranny at all, he was battling against a competing tyrant for absolute power.

Welcome to North Korea, West.

As an American, I am really tired of being forced into these power games by baby dictators.

But I am afraid the EU will turn to us for leverage on dealing with China on this situation.

The US will probably feel compelled to help.

Thanks Orban, for putting Hungary on the map. Again.

Don't be wringing your wrists when your map shrinks. Again.

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